1 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:19,380 [Music] 2 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:24,910 you're in the para cast the gold 3 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:28,529 standard of paranormal radio and now 4 00:00:36,180 --> 00:00:33,730 here's Jean Steinberg this week on the 5 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:36,190 power cast with Jean and Chris we have a 6 00:00:40,049 --> 00:00:37,809 fascinating book we're going to talk 7 00:00:42,420 --> 00:00:40,059 about with Murray Jones who hasn't been 8 00:00:44,130 --> 00:00:42,430 on the power cast for several years we 9 00:00:46,829 --> 00:00:44,140 just seem to be missing each other's 10 00:00:48,990 --> 00:00:46,839 schedules so we forced her to sit down 11 00:00:52,170 --> 00:00:49,000 in front of her computer and talk to us 12 00:00:54,780 --> 00:00:52,180 the book is called this book is from the 13 00:00:58,259 --> 00:00:54,790 future with a subtitle a journey through 14 00:01:00,450 --> 00:00:58,269 portals relativity wormholes and other 15 00:01:02,219 --> 00:01:00,460 adventures in time travel it sounds to 16 00:01:04,590 --> 00:01:02,229 me like you must be a fan of Doctor Who 17 00:01:06,330 --> 00:01:04,600 to tell you the truth I never really oh 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:06,340 good we're gonna kill me for saying this 19 00:01:11,969 --> 00:01:09,850 but I never really was a huge okay you 20 00:01:14,429 --> 00:01:11,979 were never a fan so much of Doctor Who 21 00:01:17,340 --> 00:01:14,439 there's a big level of fandom of Doctor 22 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:17,350 Who but he travels around in what looks 23 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:20,530 like a 1950's phone booth or police 24 00:01:26,789 --> 00:01:24,130 phone booth that on the inside is bigger 25 00:01:29,340 --> 00:01:26,799 than on the outside travels through time 26 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:29,350 and space now understanding that you're 27 00:01:32,940 --> 00:01:31,210 not a fan of Doctor Who and Doctor Who 28 00:01:34,830 --> 00:01:32,950 is one of these characters where you can 29 00:01:37,139 --> 00:01:34,840 have a different actor playing Doctor 30 00:01:39,029 --> 00:01:37,149 Who but he is still Doctor Who and of 31 00:01:41,669 --> 00:01:39,039 course he never uses the name Doctor Who 32 00:01:44,370 --> 00:01:41,679 he's always called the doctor do I make 33 00:01:46,889 --> 00:01:44,380 sense yet you do and it's not that I'm 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:46,899 not a fan I just for some reason never 35 00:01:53,550 --> 00:01:50,530 watched I understand the cult status of 36 00:01:55,770 --> 00:01:53,560 the show and I've read about how popular 37 00:01:58,529 --> 00:01:55,780 it is but I can never seem to figure out 38 00:02:00,389 --> 00:01:58,539 when it's on or be in front of the TV 39 00:02:03,449 --> 00:02:00,399 when it's on so it just was one of those 40 00:02:05,819 --> 00:02:03,459 things I never a got sucked up by like I 41 00:02:09,449 --> 00:02:05,829 did maybe with this the early Star Trek 42 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:09,459 or even lost shows like that when it 43 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:11,770 comes to doctor who was on BBC America 44 00:02:17,850 --> 00:02:14,050 in the United States if you have a DVR 45 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:17,860 you can always record yeah and catch up 46 00:02:21,540 --> 00:02:19,630 and right now they've got a young guy 47 00:02:22,860 --> 00:02:21,550 named Matt Smith is playing Doctor Who 48 00:02:23,790 --> 00:02:22,870 but here's the point I'm going to talk 49 00:02:26,940 --> 00:02:23,800 about because we're talking about 50 00:02:29,790 --> 00:02:26,950 wormholes and time portals and the stock 51 00:02:32,430 --> 00:02:29,800 and trade of Doctor Who is at the inside 52 00:02:35,630 --> 00:02:32,440 of his craft the tar 53 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:35,640 this hardest is bigger than the outside 54 00:02:41,580 --> 00:02:38,710 with all your studies of time travel is 55 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:41,590 it possible for this dimensional anomaly 56 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:44,110 or whatever it is sure anything's 57 00:02:48,780 --> 00:02:46,510 possible when you get into all the 58 00:02:50,970 --> 00:02:48,790 theoretical physics stuff shirts 59 00:02:54,630 --> 00:02:50,980 anything is possible and that's such a 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:54,640 widely used motif to the idea that I've 61 00:02:59,190 --> 00:02:57,250 seen horror movies even where somebody's 62 00:03:01,920 --> 00:02:59,200 gone into a small house they get inside 63 00:03:04,170 --> 00:03:01,930 and it's just gigantic as if they've 64 00:03:06,330 --> 00:03:04,180 slipped into another dimension another 65 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:06,340 level of reality so that's a device 66 00:03:10,980 --> 00:03:08,710 that's used I think in a lot of science 67 00:03:13,710 --> 00:03:10,990 fiction fantasy and horror storytelling 68 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:13,720 but sure I mean we have no idea whether 69 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:15,940 or not parallel universes and other 70 00:03:20,910 --> 00:03:18,010 dimensions other levels of reality 71 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:20,920 exists but theoretically we you hear 72 00:03:25,410 --> 00:03:22,720 them discussed all the time in the halls 73 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:25,420 of science well of course with Star Trek 74 00:03:30,210 --> 00:03:27,250 and the Star Trek universe we have 75 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:30,220 something called warp drive is that in a 76 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:33,130 sense going in another dimension to go 77 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:35,290 through outer space faster is that what 78 00:03:40,530 --> 00:03:37,330 warp drive is all about sure I think 79 00:03:43,140 --> 00:03:40,540 it's also overcoming the limitations of 80 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:43,150 Lightspeed and it's like in Star Wars 81 00:03:47,850 --> 00:03:45,010 all the famous scenes where they jump 82 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:47,860 into another reality or another part of 83 00:03:52,110 --> 00:03:50,170 the universe through a wormhole or 84 00:03:54,330 --> 00:03:52,120 through a little shortcut through time 85 00:03:56,790 --> 00:03:54,340 and space so yeah it's like an 86 00:03:59,010 --> 00:03:56,800 accelerated elevator that takes you from 87 00:04:01,770 --> 00:03:59,020 one level to the other very quickly and 88 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:01,780 when we look at that of course it was 89 00:04:06,930 --> 00:04:04,570 easy to use that as a gimmick a plot 90 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:06,940 gimmick because it was boring to show 91 00:04:11,220 --> 00:04:09,130 someone traveling in a spaceship for 25 92 00:04:13,740 --> 00:04:11,230 years going into some sort of suspended 93 00:04:15,630 --> 00:04:13,750 animation right you know goes back to 94 00:04:18,030 --> 00:04:15,640 the famous science fiction film 95 00:04:20,130 --> 00:04:18,040 Forbidden Planet and you got to think 96 00:04:22,140 --> 00:04:20,140 that the Leslie Nielsen character and 97 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:22,150 Forbidden Planet influenced William 98 00:04:29,850 --> 00:04:24,370 Shatner when he became Captain Kirk it 99 00:04:31,650 --> 00:04:29,860 was a kind of swagger Air learned that 100 00:04:34,190 --> 00:04:31,660 Leslie Nielsen was a practical joker in 101 00:04:36,630 --> 00:04:34,200 a comedian but the point is they're the 102 00:04:38,580 --> 00:04:36,640 pilots of the spaceship and the crew 103 00:04:42,740 --> 00:04:38,590 went into some sort of stasis they were 104 00:04:45,420 --> 00:04:42,750 in sort of suspended animation chambers 105 00:04:46,020 --> 00:04:45,430 but that doesn't make for a lot of fun 106 00:04:47,310 --> 00:04:46,030 so you have 107 00:04:50,460 --> 00:04:47,320 warp drive but that's an interesting 108 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:50,470 question - in doing fiction of that sort 109 00:04:55,590 --> 00:04:53,710 the people who create Star Trek or the 110 00:04:58,530 --> 00:04:55,600 people create Doctor Who or anything 111 00:05:00,600 --> 00:04:58,540 showing space being warped time travel 112 00:05:03,150 --> 00:05:00,610 whatever are they going back to science 113 00:05:05,070 --> 00:05:03,160 or real scientific knowledge to do this 114 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:05,080 or just making it all up that's a really 115 00:05:11,340 --> 00:05:07,050 good question and I think in some cases 116 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:11,350 it's a pure imagination just pushing the 117 00:05:15,900 --> 00:05:13,330 outside of the envelope of what is 118 00:05:17,970 --> 00:05:15,910 available at the time what science and 119 00:05:18,690 --> 00:05:17,980 knowledge is available at the time to 120 00:05:22,590 --> 00:05:18,700 these writers 121 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:22,600 obviously had an interest in this 122 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:24,730 subject I'm sure they did a little bit 123 00:05:29,220 --> 00:05:27,130 of research but obviously the science at 124 00:05:32,070 --> 00:05:29,230 the time was very limited so I think 125 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:32,080 it's a combination of looking at let's 126 00:05:36,750 --> 00:05:33,610 say it's a science fiction writer today 127 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:36,760 so that person would look at everything 128 00:05:40,050 --> 00:05:38,410 that has already happened 129 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:40,060 but also what's being discussed 130 00:05:43,620 --> 00:05:42,490 theoretically and then just take that 131 00:05:45,750 --> 00:05:43,630 and run with it 132 00:05:47,820 --> 00:05:45,760 using their imagination and I really 133 00:05:50,220 --> 00:05:47,830 think that all science fact 134 00:05:52,260 --> 00:05:50,230 quote-unquote begins with science 135 00:05:54,180 --> 00:05:52,270 fiction I mean somebody thinks the 136 00:05:56,730 --> 00:05:54,190 thought or imagined something as being 137 00:05:58,890 --> 00:05:56,740 possible and science eventually will 138 00:06:01,440 --> 00:05:58,900 either catch up with it or disprove it 139 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:01,450 or take it in a different direction but 140 00:06:05,820 --> 00:06:02,890 it is really interesting how these 141 00:06:08,430 --> 00:06:05,830 fiction writers just imagine the future 142 00:06:10,740 --> 00:06:08,440 how so much of it is really coming into 143 00:06:13,020 --> 00:06:10,750 play well also when they do science 144 00:06:16,460 --> 00:06:13,030 fiction movies or TV they quite often 145 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:16,470 have some kind of scientific adviser 146 00:06:20,550 --> 00:06:18,970 provides a little bit of science of 147 00:06:22,230 --> 00:06:20,560 course you know what will normally 148 00:06:24,210 --> 00:06:22,240 happen in a situation like that is that 149 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:24,220 the scientific adviser says well this is 150 00:06:31,380 --> 00:06:26,110 a little bit screwy and the producer 151 00:06:33,930 --> 00:06:31,390 will say yeah but it's just a TV show a 152 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:33,940 little bit of a foundation for for some 153 00:06:38,130 --> 00:06:36,730 truth but I love Close Encounters of the 154 00:06:40,020 --> 00:06:38,140 Third Kind I know it has nothing to do 155 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:40,030 with time travel but I love the fact dr. 156 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:43,090 J Allen Hynek was a consultant and so 157 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:44,770 even though the movie was purely 158 00:06:50,580 --> 00:06:47,650 fictional and very imaginative he was 159 00:06:54,090 --> 00:06:50,590 there to provide some basis and some 160 00:06:55,980 --> 00:06:54,100 foundation for the plotline and what the 161 00:06:57,469 --> 00:06:55,990 characters were going through obviously 162 00:06:59,869 --> 00:06:57,479 we don't want just 163 00:07:01,909 --> 00:06:59,879 cut-and-dry fact when we go to the 164 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:01,919 movies or read a novel or even watch a 165 00:07:06,499 --> 00:07:03,930 TV show like Star Trek or Doctor Who we 166 00:07:09,019 --> 00:07:06,509 want to take it as far as we can we want 167 00:07:10,939 --> 00:07:09,029 the imaginative aspects there well this 168 00:07:12,619 --> 00:07:10,949 is an example I'm not going to give too 169 00:07:14,629 --> 00:07:12,629 many spoilers on this but there's a 170 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:14,639 minor spoiler in the movie The Dark 171 00:07:20,719 --> 00:07:17,370 Knight Rises you have a scene where Bane 172 00:07:25,610 --> 00:07:20,729 the villain literally breaks Batman's 173 00:07:28,129 --> 00:07:25,620 back but somehow he is cured and I won't 174 00:07:32,709 --> 00:07:28,139 go on except saying this guy is kind of 175 00:07:36,619 --> 00:07:32,719 like a wild chiropractor type who helps 176 00:07:39,350 --> 00:07:36,629 Batman recover get his back fix so he 177 00:07:46,010 --> 00:07:39,360 can beat the villain or glasses so I 178 00:07:48,980 --> 00:07:46,020 won't get into those details it's not a 179 00:07:51,589 --> 00:07:48,990 bad breaking thing it's a bat break 180 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:51,599 that's free it's a bat break because 181 00:07:56,869 --> 00:07:54,330 it's Batman and everything about Batman 182 00:08:00,110 --> 00:07:56,879 has to have a prix fixe event exactly 183 00:08:02,899 --> 00:08:00,120 says a bat broke his back it's not real 184 00:08:04,459 --> 00:08:02,909 broken back it's a bat broken back right 185 00:08:06,860 --> 00:08:04,469 it's not like what we would experience 186 00:08:09,559 --> 00:08:06,870 because we're just lowly humans 187 00:08:13,639 --> 00:08:09,569 well it's millionaire billionaire Bruce 188 00:08:16,429 --> 00:08:13,649 Wayne exactly start as a millionaire oh 189 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:16,439 yeah he was a millionaire in the comic 190 00:08:20,929 --> 00:08:18,240 books but these days he has to be a 191 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:20,939 billionaire because things have changed 192 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:22,770 scientists changed actually what's 193 00:08:25,850 --> 00:08:24,330 happened is financial world has changed 194 00:08:29,119 --> 00:08:25,860 you know being a millionaire was 195 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:29,129 something in the 1940s 50s and 60s but 196 00:08:32,329 --> 00:08:30,330 these days you know millionaire is 197 00:08:35,029 --> 00:08:32,339 commonplace this person is an 198 00:08:36,980 --> 00:08:35,039 industrialist right he has this 199 00:08:39,019 --> 00:08:36,990 humongous company with this board of 200 00:08:41,149 --> 00:08:39,029 directors and stockholders therefore 201 00:08:43,459 --> 00:08:41,159 he's a billionaire except in the Dark 202 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:43,469 Knight Rises where a lot of his fortune 203 00:08:49,250 --> 00:08:45,690 has been frittered away maybe right 204 00:08:51,019 --> 00:08:49,260 that's not time travel so what I want to 205 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:51,029 ask you as we get on with the show is 206 00:08:55,100 --> 00:08:53,010 what attracted you to the subject of 207 00:08:56,900 --> 00:08:55,110 time travel and the implications of time 208 00:08:58,910 --> 00:08:56,910 travel but I want to say first say 209 00:09:01,189 --> 00:08:58,920 something about one of our regular 210 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:01,199 listeners somebody who has participated 211 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:03,510 in our forums for a long time and he 212 00:09:06,290 --> 00:09:05,130 wanted me to mention this because he's 213 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:06,300 such a loyal listener 214 00:09:10,460 --> 00:09:09,689 captain Robert J Watson senior father of 215 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:10,470 Perak ass 216 00:09:16,310 --> 00:09:13,710 forums member Robert J Watson jr. better 217 00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:16,320 Namas vests fee hi folk died after a 218 00:09:20,540 --> 00:09:18,510 long and brave battle with cancer on 219 00:09:22,610 --> 00:09:20,550 August 3rd captain Watson 220 00:09:24,980 --> 00:09:22,620 served with honor and distinction he had 221 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:24,990 one tour in Vietnam he was also posted 222 00:09:29,150 --> 00:09:26,730 at Fort Benning and Fort Hood and Fort 223 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:29,160 Dix so this person served his family 224 00:09:34,580 --> 00:09:32,250 with distinction and his son says he 225 00:09:36,170 --> 00:09:34,590 will be missed and he and 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forums at forum dot the 338 00:14:23,250 --> 00:14:20,830 para cast calm with gene and Chris we 339 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:23,260 continue our excursion back through time 340 00:14:27,690 --> 00:14:26,050 or into the future with Marie Jones who 341 00:14:29,759 --> 00:14:27,700 with Larry Flaxman wrote a book called 342 00:14:31,769 --> 00:14:29,769 this focus from the future but not 343 00:14:33,630 --> 00:14:31,779 literally it's about the future I guess 344 00:14:34,740 --> 00:14:33,640 but of course this book wasn't written 345 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:34,750 in the future was it 346 00:14:44,550 --> 00:14:41,110 I wish the glory and the royalties but 347 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:44,560 no it was written in the present and it 348 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:46,810 was it was written in the past but is 349 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:48,850 available in the present absolutely see 350 00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:50,410 how we cover all different timelines 351 00:14:55,949 --> 00:14:52,720 there I'm telling you it is wacky and 352 00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:55,959 what strategy of time-travel we've been 353 00:15:00,690 --> 00:14:58,959 interested in it the funny thing is and 354 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:00,700 this has happened a couple of times with 355 00:15:03,540 --> 00:15:02,290 with Larry and when we've been trying to 356 00:15:05,790 --> 00:15:03,550 think of okay what do we want to write 357 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:05,800 about next is that our publisher new 358 00:15:11,100 --> 00:15:07,810 page books Michel PI will come up with a 359 00:15:13,170 --> 00:15:11,110 great idea for us so a while back he 360 00:15:15,990 --> 00:15:13,180 asked us if we were interested in doing 361 00:15:19,110 --> 00:15:16,000 a book on time travel and at the time 362 00:15:21,870 --> 00:15:19,120 they were looking for a real scientific 363 00:15:23,730 --> 00:15:21,880 sort of deep physics kind of book and we 364 00:15:27,210 --> 00:15:23,740 just felt like you know that's not what 365 00:15:28,889 --> 00:15:27,220 we do we're not PhDs we so we're over 366 00:15:31,010 --> 00:15:28,899 time we sort of morph the book and just 367 00:15:33,540 --> 00:15:31,020 something that we feel is very 368 00:15:35,730 --> 00:15:33,550 accessible to the average reader you 369 00:15:37,829 --> 00:15:35,740 don't have to have a education and in 370 00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:37,839 theoretical physics to understand the 371 00:15:42,540 --> 00:15:40,360 book cuz trust us we don't and we also 372 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:42,550 want to include some other aspects we 373 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:44,410 wanted to talk about time itself we 374 00:15:49,260 --> 00:15:46,510 wanted to look at some of the spookier 375 00:15:51,689 --> 00:15:49,270 more quote-unquote paranormal ways that 376 00:15:54,420 --> 00:15:51,699 we might be manipulating altering time 377 00:15:56,490 --> 00:15:54,430 and time-travel conspiracies so really 378 00:15:58,650 --> 00:15:56,500 what it ended up being is an opportunity 379 00:16:00,060 --> 00:15:58,660 for us to write about time travel but in 380 00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:00,070 a way that hadn't really been done 381 00:16:04,860 --> 00:16:02,079 before we really wanted it to be sort of 382 00:16:06,780 --> 00:16:04,870 all-encompassing a quick question time 383 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:06,790 travel conspiracies how so 384 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:09,370 well there are let's see everything from 385 00:16:16,380 --> 00:16:12,130 people involved with the Roswell UFO 386 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:16,390 crash in 1947 that claim that they saw 387 00:16:20,990 --> 00:16:18,850 the wreckage and the the entities that 388 00:16:23,210 --> 00:16:21,000 were supposedly recovered 389 00:16:25,610 --> 00:16:23,220 suggests that they were from the future 390 00:16:29,300 --> 00:16:25,620 that there were time travelers from the 391 00:16:31,850 --> 00:16:29,310 future yes but why would we think if you 392 00:16:33,950 --> 00:16:31,860 see entities or creatures around a 393 00:16:36,470 --> 00:16:33,960 supposed crashed spaceship why would 394 00:16:37,820 --> 00:16:36,480 they be from the future you know 395 00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:37,830 everybody always says this and I'm not 396 00:16:41,390 --> 00:16:39,600 sure I play into it one of the theories 397 00:16:43,190 --> 00:16:41,400 is that they come back because they want 398 00:16:45,050 --> 00:16:43,200 to warn us about what we're doing to the 399 00:16:47,060 --> 00:16:45,060 planet and what-have-you but a 400 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:47,070 particular theory that we write about a 401 00:16:50,570 --> 00:16:48,210 little bit in the book is that they're 402 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:50,580 just really coming from the future 403 00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:52,770 they've mastered the landscape of time 404 00:16:57,050 --> 00:16:54,480 in other words we humans are very 405 00:17:00,980 --> 00:16:57,060 limited to living with time in a linear 406 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:00,990 fashion but advanced civilizations may 407 00:17:06,260 --> 00:17:03,810 have mastered the concept of traveling 408 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:06,270 through time so they're basically coming 409 00:17:10,490 --> 00:17:08,610 from the future to look at us to observe 410 00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:10,500 us maybe the way that we go to a museum 411 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:13,439 and we look at dinosaur displays and you 412 00:17:17,090 --> 00:17:15,449 know we go into the Amazon jungle to 413 00:17:18,710 --> 00:17:17,100 observe tribes that have been living the 414 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:18,720 same way for thousands of years what 415 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:20,480 have you so it could be just a very 416 00:17:25,309 --> 00:17:22,890 observational educational thing for them 417 00:17:28,030 --> 00:17:25,319 but at the same time there is a lot of 418 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:28,040 belief that they want to alter our 419 00:17:33,020 --> 00:17:29,970 disastrous 420 00:17:35,890 --> 00:17:33,030 okay but let's remember that movie back 421 00:17:39,230 --> 00:17:35,900 to the future where the presence of 422 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:39,240 people in the past doing strange things 423 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:42,690 are playing around may manipulate the 424 00:17:47,060 --> 00:17:44,610 futures suddenly his parents in the 425 00:17:49,670 --> 00:17:47,070 present become very different from his 426 00:17:52,100 --> 00:17:49,680 parents in his life before he went into 427 00:17:55,460 --> 00:17:52,110 the past and did a couple of things to 428 00:17:58,730 --> 00:17:55,470 make his father more brave face of 429 00:18:00,980 --> 00:17:58,740 danger so that is the legendary paradox 430 00:18:03,410 --> 00:18:00,990 in time travel if you go back through 431 00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:03,420 time and even something is insignificant 432 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:06,960 as killing an insect in prehistoric 433 00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:10,890 times may change the future in drastic 434 00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:13,200 ways exactly and that's one of the 435 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:15,840 problems is do we have the right is it 436 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:18,690 ethical is it moral to go back into the 437 00:18:23,900 --> 00:18:21,570 past and even if you change one tiny 438 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:23,910 thing in your own life thinking well 439 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:25,410 who's it gonna hurt but through the 440 00:18:29,570 --> 00:18:27,690 butterfly effect or through the chain of 441 00:18:33,050 --> 00:18:29,580 cause-and-effect you actually end up 442 00:18:33,910 --> 00:18:33,060 influencing and affecting so many people 443 00:18:35,890 --> 00:18:33,920 around you so 444 00:18:38,410 --> 00:18:35,900 you're not only altering your past and 445 00:18:40,330 --> 00:18:38,420 present and future but you're altering 446 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:40,340 theirs and where do we draw the line 447 00:18:45,730 --> 00:18:43,010 where is the line drawn if there is one 448 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:45,740 possibly the reason why these paradoxes 449 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:48,890 exist is to keep us from going back in 450 00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:50,720 the past and messing up our president 451 00:18:54,490 --> 00:18:52,640 future okay of course there are other 452 00:18:57,130 --> 00:18:54,500 possibilities - one of which is 453 00:18:59,440 --> 00:18:57,140 everything is preordained the past 454 00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:59,450 present in the future and what we do in 455 00:19:03,940 --> 00:19:01,280 the past if we go back to the past well 456 00:19:06,580 --> 00:19:03,950 that was already part of the reality in 457 00:19:09,010 --> 00:19:06,590 the fabric of reality that exists and 458 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:09,020 therefore you can't change reality or 459 00:19:13,540 --> 00:19:11,510 the change in reality is part of what 460 00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:13,550 was meant to happen anyway exactly it's 461 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:15,230 like a done deal and no matter what you 462 00:19:19,420 --> 00:19:17,450 do it's still a done deal it's part of 463 00:19:21,340 --> 00:19:19,430 that done deal and we're the other one 464 00:19:23,650 --> 00:19:21,350 being that you create a new reality of 465 00:19:26,140 --> 00:19:23,660 parallel dimension and that new 466 00:19:27,820 --> 00:19:26,150 dimension reflects the changes that you 467 00:19:29,590 --> 00:19:27,830 made right right you would go back and 468 00:19:31,390 --> 00:19:29,600 you know for example the grandfather 469 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:31,400 paradox where it says if you were to go 470 00:19:35,050 --> 00:19:33,050 back and shoot your grandfather you 471 00:19:37,180 --> 00:19:35,060 would not have never been born you 472 00:19:38,740 --> 00:19:37,190 wouldn't be able to exist in order to go 473 00:19:41,260 --> 00:19:38,750 back and shoot your grandfather like a 474 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:41,270 loop but you could go back and shoot 475 00:19:45,700 --> 00:19:43,370 anybody you want and if an alternate 476 00:19:47,740 --> 00:19:45,710 timeline or an alternate universe is 477 00:19:50,350 --> 00:19:47,750 created out of that particular choice 478 00:19:52,180 --> 00:19:50,360 then in one timeline you don't exist and 479 00:19:54,010 --> 00:19:52,190 then when you do and it can just go on 480 00:19:56,590 --> 00:19:54,020 and on and on and that's the multiverse 481 00:19:59,140 --> 00:19:56,600 theory the idea that any time a choice 482 00:20:02,260 --> 00:19:59,150 or an action is made there is a universe 483 00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:02,270 that breaks off that accommodates every 484 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:04,130 other choice and every other potential 485 00:20:09,970 --> 00:20:06,410 action but that's all theoretical and 486 00:20:12,010 --> 00:20:09,980 it's a nifty excuse or way around the 487 00:20:14,170 --> 00:20:12,020 paradoxes that seem to keep us from 488 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:14,180 going back in time at least on a 489 00:20:18,250 --> 00:20:16,250 philosophical level of course it's a 490 00:20:19,870 --> 00:20:18,260 practical level we don't know what's 491 00:20:24,070 --> 00:20:19,880 happened what could happen or has 492 00:20:26,860 --> 00:20:24,080 happened in the past right so if we look 493 00:20:28,540 --> 00:20:26,870 at the fact that in the future something 494 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:28,550 goes wrong with our civilization so we 495 00:20:34,270 --> 00:20:31,730 try to rebuild our society we have for 496 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:34,280 example that TV show Terra Nova right 497 00:20:38,470 --> 00:20:36,170 where they go back into prehistoric 498 00:20:40,390 --> 00:20:38,480 times try to re-establish civilization 499 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:40,400 there and make the changes that are 500 00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:42,650 necessary to save the people of the 501 00:20:45,940 --> 00:20:44,240 future but of course they never get into 502 00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:45,950 the paradox and they didn't get very far 503 00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:47,360 either because it lasted one 504 00:20:52,180 --> 00:20:50,000 season yeah to give another example 505 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:52,190 there is of course science-fiction 506 00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:53,450 stories about traveling into the future 507 00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:56,559 so the paradox isn't there for example I 508 00:21:01,600 --> 00:20:59,360 wrote a series of novels with my son 509 00:21:03,970 --> 00:21:01,610 Grayson called attack of the rock woods 510 00:21:07,660 --> 00:21:03,980 and the rock woods legend starts with a 511 00:21:10,299 --> 00:21:07,670 time travel situation where an earthling 512 00:21:12,669 --> 00:21:10,309 breaks into area 51 are you with me so 513 00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:12,679 far this is in the introductory chapter 514 00:21:17,289 --> 00:21:14,510 so you can go read the sample chapter 515 00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:17,299 get the sense of this and then for 516 00:21:23,049 --> 00:21:19,520 reasons that we sort of explained or not 517 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:23,059 explained he is transported way into the 518 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:25,850 future where he has to save the galaxy 519 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:28,250 you know space offer a lot of fun fun 520 00:21:33,610 --> 00:21:30,710 story the point is that we didn't try to 521 00:21:35,230 --> 00:21:33,620 look at the past and changing the past 522 00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:35,240 we look at the person from the past 523 00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:37,910 going into the futures of the paradox 524 00:21:48,100 --> 00:21:45,830 doesn't exist true well if you go into 525 00:21:50,460 --> 00:21:48,110 the future and say everything is 526 00:21:53,470 --> 00:21:50,470 predestined predetermined there is a 527 00:21:55,299 --> 00:21:53,480 plan a blueprint if you go into the 528 00:21:58,120 --> 00:21:55,309 future and see something that you don't 529 00:22:00,310 --> 00:21:58,130 like and change it or try to change it 530 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:00,320 you're still altering that blueprint 531 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:02,090 you're 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best deal I've ever seen 644 00:26:43,729 --> 00:26:41,279 them make it's literally thousands of 645 00:26:45,469 --> 00:26:43,739 dollars in savings remember these backup 646 00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:45,479 systems don't need gas because they're 647 00:26:49,940 --> 00:26:47,279 solar powered that means there's no 648 00:26:51,889 --> 00:26:49,950 dangerous fumes and no noise Infowars 649 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:51,899 listeners can get all the details at 650 00:27:02,719 --> 00:26:55,289 beat the blackouts calm that's beat the 651 00:27:05,869 --> 00:27:02,729 blackouts calm hi this is Don Ecker and 652 00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:05,879 you are tuned into the para cast let me 653 00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:07,769 tell you what you're gonna hear stuff 654 00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:10,529 here that you probably won't hear 655 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:12,140 anywhere else 656 00:27:16,570 --> 00:27:14,990 hear that George snoring with Gene and 657 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:16,580 Chris you're back at the power cast 658 00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:19,130 we're talking to Murray Jones who with 659 00:27:22,780 --> 00:27:20,900 Larry Flaxman wrote a book called this 660 00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:22,790 book is from the future exploring 661 00:27:27,610 --> 00:27:25,820 portals relativity wormholes and other 662 00:27:30,340 --> 00:27:27,620 adventures in time travel 663 00:27:33,010 --> 00:27:30,350 now speaking of time travel or anything 664 00:27:36,610 --> 00:27:33,020 else we have a phenomenon in the UFO 665 00:27:38,860 --> 00:27:36,620 field called missing time oh yes where 666 00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:38,870 you have situations where somebody is 667 00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:41,990 taking a trip say a two-hour trip and 668 00:27:48,340 --> 00:27:45,230 suddenly it's two hours later or they've 669 00:27:50,830 --> 00:27:48,350 made that to our progress in a shorter 670 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:50,840 amount of time right what's going on 671 00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:55,010 here excuse me 672 00:28:01,060 --> 00:27:58,970 tell me more yeah I was living in LA at 673 00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:01,070 the time this was quite a while ago I 674 00:28:05,650 --> 00:28:02,960 was gonna go I was a member of the 675 00:28:07,690 --> 00:28:05,660 Planetary Society and Carl Sagan was 676 00:28:09,370 --> 00:28:07,700 speaking at their annual conference he 677 00:28:11,050 --> 00:28:09,380 was like the big keynote speaker and I 678 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:11,060 had gotten tickets cuz I was a member 679 00:28:15,490 --> 00:28:13,610 and I was so excited and it was a real 680 00:28:16,900 --> 00:28:15,500 frustrating evening trying to get out 681 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:16,910 the door and get there I wrote about 682 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:19,130 this in a couple of books or Larry and I 683 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:20,330 wrote about our missing time experiences 684 00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:23,090 that we've each had but anyway I was on 685 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:27,980 the 134 East and I explained where we're 686 00:28:34,060 --> 00:28:31,130 talking about exactly in the valley lost 687 00:28:36,820 --> 00:28:34,070 of Los Angeles going from Burbank into 688 00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:36,830 Glendale the event was in Pasadena at 689 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:39,110 the JPL Jeff I didn't see the little old 690 00:28:41,890 --> 00:28:40,250 lady from Pasadena 691 00:28:48,460 --> 00:28:41,900 oh she's everywhere she's usually 692 00:28:50,350 --> 00:28:48,470 surfing at the beach so anyway I was on 693 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:50,360 the freeway and it should have taken me 694 00:28:56,650 --> 00:28:53,510 oh gosh maybe 40 45 minutes to get there 695 00:28:59,980 --> 00:28:56,660 and I ended up just losing two hours of 696 00:29:01,510 --> 00:28:59,990 time when I came to I was still driving 697 00:29:04,030 --> 00:29:01,520 my car but I was on a completely 698 00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:04,040 different freeway heading north toward 699 00:29:09,610 --> 00:29:06,710 Sacramento panicked of course just went 700 00:29:11,470 --> 00:29:09,620 into a complete panic and I was married 701 00:29:14,290 --> 00:29:11,480 at the time that's when we had those big 702 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:14,300 chunky cellphones in the West yes I 703 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:16,250 remember the chunky cellphones okay so 704 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:18,110 you had the big cell phone what you do 705 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:20,330 hold off the freeway when you have those 706 00:29:24,370 --> 00:29:21,770 big cell phones there's no way you could 707 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:24,380 call and drive at the same time call my 708 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:25,410 ex-husband 709 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:27,090 I said you know oh my god I don't know 710 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:28,770 where the hell I am what happened it was 711 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:31,530 two hours later I completely missed Carl 712 00:29:36,980 --> 00:29:34,530 Sagan and he just calmed me down and 713 00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:36,990 just said get back on the freeway going 714 00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:38,880 south and then you know I was able to 715 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:40,860 find my way back home I lived in North 716 00:29:44,390 --> 00:29:42,570 Hollywood at the time I should say you 717 00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:44,400 know two hours was gone it was just 718 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:47,880 black it was nothing and I have never 719 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:50,010 felt like anything happened during that 720 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:52,890 time I never had any desire to find out 721 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:54,810 what happened all I cared about was the 722 00:29:58,910 --> 00:29:56,970 fact that I was still able to drive my 723 00:30:01,400 --> 00:29:58,920 car on the LA freeways and not kill 724 00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:01,410 anybody but strangely enough all these 725 00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:04,110 years later in fact last year I was 726 00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:06,240 doing a radio interview with a woman 727 00:30:12,140 --> 00:30:09,360 named Starfire tor who told me that that 728 00:30:18,790 --> 00:30:12,150 is a notorious section of the freeway in 729 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:21,200 you know she kind of put the seed in my 730 00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:23,370 head but it was really scary I mean I 731 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:25,800 felt like I blacked out I had not been 732 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:28,290 drinking I didn't drink came two hours 733 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:31,290 later in a completely different location 734 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:35,250 and yet somehow stayed on autopilot and 735 00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:38,370 was able to function on you know drop 736 00:30:43,670 --> 00:30:40,710 continuing to drive my car but I hear 737 00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:43,680 these experiences of missing time people 738 00:30:50,060 --> 00:30:47,520 driving into a weird fog and coming 500 739 00:30:51,740 --> 00:30:50,070 miles up the road ten hours later and 740 00:30:54,170 --> 00:30:51,750 just you know what happened I thought 741 00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:54,180 maybe ten minutes passed and I kind of 742 00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,520 related to when I'm writing I'm really 743 00:30:59,810 --> 00:30:58,080 really involved in writing 744 00:31:02,000 --> 00:30:59,820 I will think that maybe a half hour 745 00:31:03,740 --> 00:31:02,010 passed and if I look up at the clock 746 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:03,750 three hours have gone by so I don't know 747 00:31:08,870 --> 00:31:06,210 if it's a perception thing or something 748 00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:08,880 much deeper and more intriguing going 749 00:31:12,890 --> 00:31:10,980 okay now with this kind of missing time 750 00:31:15,860 --> 00:31:12,900 or getting lost in the wrong place 751 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:15,870 you had no remembrances or dreams about 752 00:31:21,050 --> 00:31:18,690 something weird nothing I wasn't like 753 00:31:23,060 --> 00:31:21,060 this traditional abductee experience we 754 00:31:23,690 --> 00:31:23,070 have nightmares about aliens and stuff 755 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:23,700 like that 756 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:26,610 I had always since childhood dreamed of 757 00:31:32,930 --> 00:31:30,690 aliens and UFOs and things but I was 758 00:31:35,090 --> 00:31:32,940 always interested I never looked at it 759 00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:35,100 as oh I wonder if something happened and 760 00:31:38,620 --> 00:31:36,750 they're really afterwards I had no 761 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:38,630 markings on my body I didn't 762 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:40,700 go into any word anxiety attacks I just 763 00:31:45,850 --> 00:31:43,370 and I was a member of MUFON at the time 764 00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:45,860 mutual UFO network so I was immersed in 765 00:31:51,010 --> 00:31:48,710 all of that and I'm telling you the 766 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:51,020 thought didn't even cross my mind I was 767 00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:54,290 just so fast once the panic went away I 768 00:32:00,550 --> 00:31:57,110 was fascinated by the human body's 769 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:00,560 ability to operate on an autopilot even 770 00:32:04,650 --> 00:32:02,330 in a situation more consciously you're 771 00:32:07,930 --> 00:32:04,660 just not there but no I never had any 772 00:32:10,990 --> 00:32:07,940 inkling that something really bizarre or 773 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:11,000 creepy happened who knows why no one of 774 00:32:16,530 --> 00:32:13,250 our former crawl hosts was on the show 775 00:32:19,510 --> 00:32:16,540 one time to report where he drove from 776 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:19,520 Boston to New York City with a friend 777 00:32:24,790 --> 00:32:23,210 and the trip took half as much as it 778 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:24,800 should have taken so ripped that would 779 00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:26,930 have taken maybe four hours or so took 780 00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:29,840 less than two hours so in that case it 781 00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:32,240 wasn't missing time it was gained time 782 00:32:39,190 --> 00:32:36,320 right like you know do we have instances 783 00:32:42,340 --> 00:32:39,200 of that absolutely we've got instances 784 00:32:45,820 --> 00:32:42,350 of people losing time missing time times 785 00:32:48,190 --> 00:32:45,830 speeding up people that feel like they 786 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:48,200 entered a warp they've go to a certain 787 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:50,210 location they go to a museum or what 788 00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:52,010 have you a park and all of a sudden they 789 00:32:56,610 --> 00:32:54,320 feel like they're surrounded by people 790 00:32:59,020 --> 00:32:56,620 that are dressed in 18th century 791 00:33:01,090 --> 00:32:59,030 clothing and it's not a you know any 792 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:01,100 kind of fairer festival it's almost like 793 00:33:05,170 --> 00:33:03,170 they entered a different time line 794 00:33:07,860 --> 00:33:05,180 through a parallel dimension or what 795 00:33:10,750 --> 00:33:07,870 have you so so many different time 796 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:10,760 anomaly experiences that are reported 797 00:33:15,550 --> 00:33:12,650 and that's what I like to call them 798 00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:15,560 because like you said in some cases 799 00:33:20,860 --> 00:33:18,590 people are losing time in some cases 800 00:33:22,690 --> 00:33:20,870 they're gaining they're traveling much 801 00:33:25,930 --> 00:33:22,700 faster than they really possibly ever 802 00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:25,940 could have it's just time itself is such 803 00:33:30,190 --> 00:33:28,310 an anomaly now of course the skeptics 804 00:33:32,050 --> 00:33:30,200 will say you know what they're making it 805 00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:32,060 up they're suffering from some sort of 806 00:33:38,860 --> 00:33:35,150 psychological problem how do we prove to 807 00:33:41,950 --> 00:33:38,870 an affaire party that you had a case of 808 00:33:46,690 --> 00:33:41,960 missing time or gained or advanced time 809 00:33:49,210 --> 00:33:46,700 you can't until they have an experience 810 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:49,220 and then they'll be a believer but you 811 00:33:51,730 --> 00:33:50,570 know unfortunately these are subjective 812 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:51,740 personal it's 813 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:53,690 appearances and I don't know that 814 00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:55,570 there's a way to prove them unless 815 00:34:00,400 --> 00:33:58,130 somebody figures out what parts of the 816 00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:00,410 brain are involved and and can put you 817 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:02,480 in a lab laboratory setting and hook you 818 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:05,510 up to electrodes and stimulate and I 819 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:07,130 know they do this with deja boo' they've 820 00:34:11,470 --> 00:34:08,810 actually done this with deja vu or they 821 00:34:13,450 --> 00:34:11,480 can stimulate deja vu you know in a 822 00:34:14,770 --> 00:34:13,460 clinical setting so you think you've 823 00:34:18,070 --> 00:34:14,780 been there already but that's done 824 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:18,080 artificially early because when you're 825 00:34:22,090 --> 00:34:19,850 out walking around and you have deja vu 826 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:22,100 nobody's triggering it you know there's 827 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:24,530 some sort of external trigger but it's 828 00:34:29,619 --> 00:34:27,050 environmental so I think the only way it 829 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:29,629 could prove somebody had missing time is 830 00:34:34,270 --> 00:34:32,570 to have someone get all hooked up in a 831 00:34:36,450 --> 00:34:34,280 lab with a bunch of scientists 832 00:34:39,550 --> 00:34:36,460 surrounding them and have them somehow 833 00:34:41,139 --> 00:34:39,560 miss time but that's see that's still 834 00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:41,149 not gonna answer the question of why it 835 00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:43,520 happens organically when you're just out 836 00:34:47,919 --> 00:34:45,440 and about why did it happen to me just 837 00:34:50,710 --> 00:34:47,929 driving my night to go see Carl Sagan 838 00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:50,720 you know why did it happen to Joe when 839 00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:52,480 he was going to the grocery store or 840 00:34:55,629 --> 00:34:55,040 Sally when you know she was going out on 841 00:34:58,330 --> 00:34:55,639 a date 842 00:35:00,250 --> 00:34:58,340 well she drove into a fog and three 843 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:00,260 hours later she was a thousand miles up 844 00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:01,910 the road you know that's happening 845 00:35:06,940 --> 00:35:04,910 organically and we need to know what 846 00:35:10,030 --> 00:35:06,950 those both external and internal 847 00:35:11,620 --> 00:35:10,040 triggers I think human physiology may 848 00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:11,630 also have something to do it that these 849 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:13,609 things don't happen to everybody is 850 00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:15,530 there a reason for that well the other 851 00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:17,390 question is here is being the right 852 00:35:21,580 --> 00:35:19,760 place at the wrong time or something do 853 00:35:23,830 --> 00:35:21,590 things like this happen in specific 854 00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:23,840 locations around the world more often 855 00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:25,750 than anywhere else 856 00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:29,180 seems like England is just a hotbed 857 00:35:33,970 --> 00:35:32,000 I love reading Jennie Randall's books 858 00:35:35,830 --> 00:35:33,980 and all the research she does it just 859 00:35:38,859 --> 00:35:35,840 makes it sound like the British Isles 860 00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:38,869 are you know I don't know I think a lot 861 00:35:44,140 --> 00:35:41,510 of people will tell you that in terms of 862 00:35:45,970 --> 00:35:44,150 paranormal activity like hauntings and 863 00:35:50,830 --> 00:35:45,980 missing time and whatnot that there are 864 00:35:52,930 --> 00:35:50,840 zones of high strangeness areas that 865 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:52,940 seem to be more haunted where the veil 866 00:35:56,650 --> 00:35:55,010 between realities is then are you hear 867 00:35:58,330 --> 00:35:56,660 all kinds of phrases like this thrown 868 00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:58,340 around and I think that's entirely 869 00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:02,000 possible my belief is that all over this 870 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:04,070 planet there are probably locations 871 00:36:06,630 --> 00:36:04,690 where 872 00:36:10,589 --> 00:36:06,640 environment is a little bit different 873 00:36:14,250 --> 00:36:10,599 maybe the Enfield is a little weaker or 874 00:36:15,809 --> 00:36:14,260 stronger or there's seismic activity 875 00:36:17,579 --> 00:36:15,819 that goes on or there's underground 876 00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:17,589 water sources what have you I mean I 877 00:36:23,370 --> 00:36:19,150 think all of the different environmental 878 00:36:25,230 --> 00:36:23,380 factors have to be looked at we when it 879 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:25,240 comes to these hot spots but you will 880 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:27,250 hear people say oh 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00:41:28,449 little bit about Larry and how you guys 994 00:41:35,099 --> 00:41:32,349 teamed up Larry Flaxman is my co-author 995 00:41:37,769 --> 00:41:35,109 on five books and hopefully more to come 996 00:41:39,449 --> 00:41:37,779 he is a paranormal investigator it's 997 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:39,459 that a very large group called our past 998 00:41:44,189 --> 00:41:41,650 the Arkansas paranormal and anomalous 999 00:41:47,009 --> 00:41:44,199 studies team he is he works full-time in 1000 00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:47,019 law enforcement really great guy how we 1001 00:41:51,959 --> 00:41:49,209 met because I had never considered 1002 00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:51,969 writing with a partner before is it he 1003 00:41:56,999 --> 00:41:55,089 read my book science which is psi and ze 1004 00:41:59,159 --> 00:41:57,009 science which is about quantum physics 1005 00:42:02,099 --> 00:41:59,169 and the paranormal many years ago that 1006 00:42:04,739 --> 00:42:02,109 was my first big book that came out and 1007 00:42:06,659 --> 00:42:04,749 I had gotten tons and tons of emails 1008 00:42:08,189 --> 00:42:06,669 from people and his he just we just 1009 00:42:10,349 --> 00:42:08,199 started emailing back and forth about 1010 00:42:12,419 --> 00:42:10,359 some of the ideas and concepts in the 1011 00:42:14,759 --> 00:42:12,429 book and just sort of built a friendship 1012 00:42:17,309 --> 00:42:14,769 and then an alliance and decided you 1013 00:42:19,829 --> 00:42:17,319 know maybe let's try writing together 1014 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:19,839 he's got the ability to go out in the 1015 00:42:26,549 --> 00:42:23,650 field and look at more objectively some 1016 00:42:28,739 --> 00:42:26,559 of the theories and ideas and concepts 1017 00:42:30,359 --> 00:42:28,749 that we can come up with that are a 1018 00:42:33,539 --> 00:42:30,369 little more subjective so it's like a 1019 00:42:36,089 --> 00:42:33,549 really great idea to form this team so 1020 00:42:37,859 --> 00:42:36,099 the first book we wrote was called 1111 1021 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:37,869 the time prompt phenomenon and it was 1022 00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:41,130 all about signs and sequences and number 1023 00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:43,569 synchronicities and and it was a huge 1024 00:42:48,839 --> 00:42:45,609 success so we just kind of kept going 1025 00:42:51,299 --> 00:42:48,849 and here you are in putting this book 1026 00:42:52,739 --> 00:42:51,309 together what was your starting point 1027 00:42:54,659 --> 00:42:52,749 what was your guideposts and coming up 1028 00:42:57,929 --> 00:42:54,669 with this concept for the time-travel 1029 00:42:59,699 --> 00:42:57,939 book we knew that we needed to present a 1030 00:43:01,380 --> 00:42:59,709 little bit of everything or people would 1031 00:43:05,699 --> 00:43:01,390 say how come you didn't write about this 1032 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:05,709 so I just started in any case looking at 1033 00:43:11,149 --> 00:43:08,890 this book here Murray in putting this 1034 00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:11,159 together than ever dawn on you that 1035 00:43:16,859 --> 00:43:14,470 maybe there can be no time-travel maybe 1036 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:16,869 can be no time anomalies that all this 1037 00:43:23,099 --> 00:43:19,050 stuff just can't be it's not possible 1038 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:23,109 absolutely there were time travelers 1039 00:43:28,730 --> 00:43:25,450 from the future well where are they you 1040 00:43:31,050 --> 00:43:28,740 know why aren't they mingling about sure 1041 00:43:32,910 --> 00:43:31,060 everything that Larry and I do we like 1042 00:43:35,339 --> 00:43:32,920 to say we're putting the ideas out there 1043 00:43:37,050 --> 00:43:35,349 what if let's look at all of the current 1044 00:43:40,140 --> 00:43:37,060 research let's look at all the current 1045 00:43:43,349 --> 00:43:40,150 theories and presented whether or not we 1046 00:43:45,780 --> 00:43:43,359 see time travel in my lifetime I have no 1047 00:43:48,450 --> 00:43:45,790 clue it doesn't look like we're gonna be 1048 00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:48,460 able to master the technology by then 1049 00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:51,520 but certainly the theories are coming 1050 00:43:55,650 --> 00:43:53,740 quick and a lot of funds seem very solid 1051 00:43:57,930 --> 00:43:55,660 if we could just master the science and 1052 00:43:59,880 --> 00:43:57,940 no theories always come first and then 1053 00:44:01,559 --> 00:43:59,890 the science catches up to it let me ask 1054 00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:01,569 you what about in the laboratory have 1055 00:44:07,380 --> 00:44:03,910 they succeeded in taking they can tiny 1056 00:44:09,359 --> 00:44:07,390 particle of energy perhaps and making it 1057 00:44:17,250 --> 00:44:09,369 go into the future slightly ever so 1058 00:44:20,819 --> 00:44:17,260 slightly photons which are light 1059 00:44:23,609 --> 00:44:20,829 particles that you can actually conduct 1060 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:23,619 an experiment and then go back later and 1061 00:44:27,780 --> 00:44:26,410 change the outcome of the experiment 1062 00:44:29,819 --> 00:44:27,790 it's almost like you're going back and 1063 00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:29,829 changing the past behavior of that 1064 00:44:34,620 --> 00:44:32,680 photon I'd love to do that so much I can 1065 00:44:36,180 --> 00:44:34,630 think of all the things I've done and 1066 00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:36,190 I've lived about three or four hundred 1067 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:38,680 years at least feels that way and I 1068 00:44:43,589 --> 00:44:41,290 think all the pivotal things I've done 1069 00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:43,599 in my life which were big screw-ups 1070 00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:45,880 right and if I could go back and change 1071 00:44:51,990 --> 00:44:47,710 them but then I have to think what 1072 00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:52,000 happened afterwards you know whose other 1073 00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:53,950 futures are you messing with when you 1074 00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:56,079 change yours if it's just one little 1075 00:44:59,849 --> 00:44:58,240 light particle it's okay and everything 1076 00:45:02,370 --> 00:44:59,859 always seems to start on the quantum 1077 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:02,380 level first we we say oh we can send a 1078 00:45:06,450 --> 00:45:04,690 photon into the future we can send one 1079 00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:06,460 into the past we can even alter past 1080 00:45:12,510 --> 00:45:09,760 behavior but does that mean that we can 1081 00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:12,520 extrapolate that same information on a 1082 00:45:18,589 --> 00:45:15,520 bigger scale and that's of course what 1083 00:45:20,609 --> 00:45:18,599 people are hoping to do there's a lot of 1084 00:45:23,069 --> 00:45:20,619 experiments going on out at the Large 1085 00:45:25,319 --> 00:45:23,079 Hadron Collider at CERN where they're 1086 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:25,329 hoping to find evidence of parallel 1087 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:27,770 universes and and black hole 1088 00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:29,930 and maybe even wormholes because all of 1089 00:45:34,810 --> 00:45:31,910 this stuff starts theoretically and then 1090 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:34,820 we hope that maybe actually it will 1091 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:37,370 become true but again I mean if we could 1092 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:38,930 do this stuff with particles 1093 00:45:43,660 --> 00:45:40,970 it still doesn't necessarily mean it's 1094 00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:43,670 gonna work for us on the human scale 1095 00:45:48,580 --> 00:45:46,160 ders we're so much more complex there's 1096 00:45:50,050 --> 00:45:48,590 so much more to think about and really 1097 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:50,060 for Larry and I write in the book what 1098 00:45:55,390 --> 00:45:52,970 we really got out of this was again the 1099 00:45:58,150 --> 00:45:55,400 ethical and moral implications of 1100 00:46:00,340 --> 00:45:58,160 messing with time it's a it's a big 1101 00:46:02,290 --> 00:46:00,350 thing people don't think about it well 1102 00:46:03,850 --> 00:46:02,300 of course they have that movie Timecop 1103 00:46:06,250 --> 00:46:03,860 and they have a short-lived TV series 1104 00:46:08,620 --> 00:46:06,260 about it where you have this 1105 00:46:11,410 --> 00:46:08,630 organization the future that goes back 1106 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:11,420 in time to undo the things that people 1107 00:46:22,060 --> 00:46:20,210 who metal with time travel create yeah 1108 00:46:24,610 --> 00:46:22,070 in Moorea I was a little bummed on all 1109 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:24,620 your lists of songs and TV shows and 1110 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:27,050 movies one of my favorite shows as a kid 1111 00:46:37,090 --> 00:46:30,530 was the time tunnel remember that one I 1112 00:46:41,710 --> 00:46:37,100 don't seize ins I think in 65 maybe 64 1113 00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:41,720 was a Bobby Darin but not Bobby Darin 1114 00:46:48,490 --> 00:46:45,110 James Darren James produced by Irwin 1115 00:46:51,010 --> 00:46:48,500 Allen who did lost in the space right 1116 00:46:53,020 --> 00:46:51,020 and we can look at the actors here James 1117 00:46:55,060 --> 00:46:53,030 Darren Robert Cobert wit Bissell you 1118 00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:55,070 probably have heard of Lee Meriwether 1119 00:46:59,500 --> 00:46:57,290 who also appeared in the Batman TV 1120 00:47:00,340 --> 00:46:59,510 series wasn't she one of the people who 1121 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:00,350 played Catwoman 1122 00:47:08,470 --> 00:47:04,090 yeah yeah she was gorgeous but you know 1123 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:08,480 yeah she's still around yeah she's right 1124 00:47:14,650 --> 00:47:11,690 now 76 years old Wow and she's still 1125 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:14,660 doing it so amazing I'm looking over her 1126 00:47:23,170 --> 00:47:19,010 past here she appeared in dragnet route 1127 00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:23,180 66 Jack Benny The Man From UNCLE believe 1128 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:25,910 it or not that's Perry Mason the 1129 00:47:30,460 --> 00:47:29,450 fugitive and of course Batman as 1130 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:30,470 Catwoman 1131 00:47:37,470 --> 00:47:35,930 yeah Eartha Kitt the problem you always 1132 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:37,480 wonder is why they had so many people 1133 00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:41,090 playing Catwoman yeah 1134 00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:44,270 things up a bit but anyway the time 1135 00:47:48,130 --> 00:47:46,310 tunnel I guess it was an OK TV series 1136 00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:48,140 didn't last very long you know it's 1137 00:47:53,890 --> 00:47:50,510 funny we originally had a big appendix 1138 00:47:57,070 --> 00:47:53,900 with the book that listed every oh my 1139 00:47:59,410 --> 00:47:57,080 gosh every TV show movie book short 1140 00:48:01,570 --> 00:47:59,420 story we can think of and the publisher 1141 00:48:03,970 --> 00:48:01,580 was like oh you're you've gone way over 1142 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:03,980 word count here so cut it down so we 1143 00:48:08,410 --> 00:48:05,810 then up taking out the appendix and yeah 1144 00:48:10,660 --> 00:48:08,420 I'm sure our lists are are very lacking 1145 00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:10,670 and being complete we'll have a few 1146 00:48:17,980 --> 00:48:13,190 people that'll email and say why didn't 1147 00:48:20,830 --> 00:48:17,990 you mention this how could you mention 1148 00:48:24,250 --> 00:48:20,840 that part but is there gonna be a part - 1149 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:24,260 I not until there's a whole lot more 1150 00:48:30,010 --> 00:48:27,410 going on I mean we really tried to come 1151 00:48:31,540 --> 00:48:30,020 right up to the wire and even in the 1152 00:48:33,370 --> 00:48:31,550 editing process we had to make some 1153 00:48:37,450 --> 00:48:33,380 alterations because things kept 1154 00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:37,460 happening that sort of voided right 1155 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:40,310 there's stuff from spring of 2012 even 1156 00:48:43,930 --> 00:48:42,290 the late spring and you know at some 1157 00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:43,940 point you just you have to turn the book 1158 00:48:48,310 --> 00:48:45,680 in and then anything that happens after 1159 00:48:49,330 --> 00:48:48,320 that what will happen is if over the 1160 00:48:52,210 --> 00:48:49,340 next year or two 1161 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:52,220 there's enough new information new 1162 00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:54,410 research which I hope there is we might 1163 00:48:58,660 --> 00:48:56,510 be asked your revised version and that 1164 00:49:00,100 --> 00:48:58,670 just shows you how quickly and that's 1165 00:49:03,310 --> 00:49:00,110 the problem with writing any book the 1166 00:49:05,290 --> 00:49:03,320 minute you turn it in that same day the 1167 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:05,300 day after the day after their research 1168 00:49:10,210 --> 00:49:07,970 story's coming out oh darn why don't we 1169 00:49:12,790 --> 00:49:10,220 include that we wrote about the neutrino 1170 00:49:15,450 --> 00:49:12,800 experiments and how oh they breach 1171 00:49:18,430 --> 00:49:15,460 Lightspeed with these neutrinos and then 1172 00:49:19,540 --> 00:49:18,440 right when we turn the book in you know 1173 00:49:21,820 --> 00:49:19,550 they found out that there were these 1174 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:21,830 glitches with the cables and the GPS and 1175 00:49:28,450 --> 00:49:26,810 then it was a big bust so we had but 1176 00:49:30,070 --> 00:49:28,460 really it's impossible to keep up keep 1177 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:30,080 up with the research that's going on 1178 00:49:34,210 --> 00:49:32,210 well it's almost like these computer 1179 00:49:38,650 --> 00:49:34,220 books you know how to use a new version 1180 00:49:40,270 --> 00:49:38,660 of Mac OS or Windows and the shelf life 1181 00:49:42,310 --> 00:49:40,280 of the book is very short because 1182 00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:42,320 there's always gonna be a new operating 1183 00:49:46,450 --> 00:49:44,750 system or update that renders it 1184 00:49:49,150 --> 00:49:46,460 obsolete if you look at the fact that 1185 00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:49,160 I've probably written over 30 books but 1186 00:49:53,530 --> 00:49:50,960 most of them are completely obsolete for 1187 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:53,540 all sorts of reasons how's it feel to be 1188 00:49:56,990 --> 00:49:54,930 obsolete lazy 1189 00:49:59,110 --> 00:49:57,000 I can't tell you at the introduction to 1190 00:50:02,480 --> 00:49:59,120 the book you talk about iPhone 1191 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:02,490 applications iPhone apps that may have 1192 00:50:10,610 --> 00:50:05,610 some time travel relationship explain 1193 00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:10,620 what there's a whole bunch now yeah 1194 00:50:16,250 --> 00:50:13,110 there was a time travelers guide to 1195 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:16,260 Bristol and the United Kingdom and it's 1196 00:50:22,490 --> 00:50:19,490 just you know their archive images that 1197 00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:22,500 show how the city of Bristol has changed 1198 00:50:27,140 --> 00:50:25,740 over time minutes just a fun way to look 1199 00:50:29,870 --> 00:50:27,150 at time travel of course you're not 1200 00:50:32,030 --> 00:50:29,880 actually doing it but I'm sure there's 1201 00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:32,040 gonna be I should ask my son he probably 1202 00:50:36,740 --> 00:50:33,900 knows about 80 of them a probably 1203 00:50:39,380 --> 00:50:36,750 downloaded all of them onto his iPhone 1204 00:50:42,380 --> 00:50:39,390 we're just fascinated by the idea of 1205 00:50:43,970 --> 00:50:42,390 looking back into the past and here's 1206 00:50:45,470 --> 00:50:43,980 another thing that Larry might sound 1207 00:50:46,670 --> 00:50:45,480 when we talk about time travel this 1208 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:46,680 really surprised me 1209 00:50:52,190 --> 00:50:49,890 people are more fascinated by going into 1210 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:52,200 the past even though it's already been 1211 00:50:54,980 --> 00:50:54,570 written lived been done been there done 1212 00:50:57,380 --> 00:50:54,990 that 1213 00:50:59,630 --> 00:50:57,390 then they are in the future is it 1214 00:51:01,400 --> 00:50:59,640 because we have so many regrets or the 1215 00:51:03,140 --> 00:51:01,410 hope that even though we did something 1216 00:51:05,030 --> 00:51:03,150 well we could have done better 1217 00:51:06,260 --> 00:51:05,040 differently I mean we go back to the 1218 00:51:08,780 --> 00:51:06,270 thing I was mentioning before about 1219 00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:08,790 pivotal parts of your life we're one 1220 00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:11,910 second one act and change everything 1221 00:51:15,830 --> 00:51:13,800 that comes after and I can think of one 1222 00:51:18,290 --> 00:51:15,840 instance where I got into a fight with 1223 00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:18,300 the manager of a radio station I was 1224 00:51:23,180 --> 00:51:21,000 working at back in the 1970s and I'll 1225 00:51:25,820 --> 00:51:23,190 let you know what that turned out to be 1226 00:51:28,130 --> 00:51:25,830 and what it turned 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00:54:13,690 Chris and the para cast we have Marie 1270 00:54:19,230 --> 00:54:16,390 Jones the book she wrote with Larry 1271 00:54:20,940 --> 00:54:19,240 Flaxman this book is from the future 1272 00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:20,950 from new page books which of course 1273 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:22,480 there's a lot of books about the 1274 00:54:27,620 --> 00:54:24,730 paranormal and the frontiers of science 1275 00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:27,630 I was talking about this pivotal act 1276 00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:29,950 1970s I get into a fight with the 1277 00:54:34,620 --> 00:54:32,800 manager of the radio station I was 1278 00:54:37,140 --> 00:54:34,630 working at and he says you know what why 1279 00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:37,150 don't you just leave and my now 1280 00:54:42,450 --> 00:54:40,000 understand in broadcasting I don't think 1281 00:54:45,570 --> 00:54:42,460 anybody has spent time in radio without 1282 00:54:48,090 --> 00:54:45,580 being fired at least once and more that 1283 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:48,100 ones even the most famous people Howard 1284 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:51,370 Stern tell you to this day that although 1285 00:54:54,450 --> 00:54:52,690 he's making what two to four hundred 1286 00:54:56,910 --> 00:54:54,460 million dollars a year is some amazing 1287 00:54:58,890 --> 00:54:56,920 amount of money early on in his career 1288 00:55:01,620 --> 00:54:58,900 you know he tried to do something that 1289 00:55:03,450 --> 00:55:01,630 was different and guess what he got 1290 00:55:05,940 --> 00:55:03,460 fired for it or maybe he had a bad 1291 00:55:08,510 --> 00:55:05,950 attitude I've worked at another radio 1292 00:55:12,030 --> 00:55:08,520 station in the deep south where 1293 00:55:14,910 --> 00:55:12,040 everything was going okay until this is 1294 00:55:17,970 --> 00:55:14,920 the deep south in the late 60s and they 1295 00:55:22,890 --> 00:55:17,980 give me a spot to read about a meeting 1296 00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:22,900 involving the KKK so I felt the station 1297 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:24,250 manager after this you know I'd rather 1298 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:26,530 not do that I'd rather not read ads from 1299 00:55:30,810 --> 00:55:29,530 that again and he said fine goodbye huh 1300 00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:30,820 goodbye and good luck 1301 00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:33,640 pivotal events Oh Chris you want to pick 1302 00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:36,670 up the questions I was really very very 1303 00:55:41,460 --> 00:55:38,110 impressed with the amount of science 1304 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:41,470 that you and Larry were able to not only 1305 00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:43,450 address and cover in the book but put it 1306 00:55:48,540 --> 00:55:45,250 in such a way that I think the average 1307 00:55:50,940 --> 00:55:48,550 reader will be able to understand it and 1308 00:55:53,610 --> 00:55:50,950 it was very fascinating for me to see 1309 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:53,620 the progression of thinking all the way 1310 00:55:58,260 --> 00:55:56,650 through from the 1880s 1890s to the 1311 00:56:01,530 --> 00:55:58,270 present one of the things that's always 1312 00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:01,540 fascinated me are as we were discussing 1313 00:56:06,730 --> 00:56:04,640 earlier as the time paradoxes and how 1314 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:06,740 and I love the way that you guys broke 1315 00:56:14,530 --> 00:56:09,410 that down to show even though a couple 1316 00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:14,540 three of them are really similar yeah 1317 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:17,150 they all kind of are talking about the 1318 00:56:21,850 --> 00:56:18,650 same thing which is which is the 1319 00:56:23,590 --> 00:56:21,860 irrevocable changing of the past but but 1320 00:56:27,550 --> 00:56:23,600 my question is you know with the whole 1321 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:27,560 idea of membrane theory and in quantum 1322 00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:29,530 universe and the multiverse if you will 1323 00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:31,910 where are we going in terms of 1324 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:34,400 scientific understanding with the whole 1325 00:56:40,090 --> 00:56:38,090 aspect of dimensions and the whole 1326 00:56:45,540 --> 00:56:40,100 multiverse you know 1327 00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:45,550 context if you will probably the primary 1328 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:49,310 directive behind well certainly any 1329 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:51,770 research into time travel because of 1330 00:56:55,330 --> 00:56:53,450 those paradoxes because of the 1331 00:56:57,940 --> 00:56:55,340 Lightspeed limitations within the known 1332 00:57:00,040 --> 00:56:57,950 laws of our universe obviously the next 1333 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:00,050 thing to look at would be well how do 1334 00:57:04,270 --> 00:57:02,210 you get around all that the pet theory 1335 00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:04,280 of course is the idea of the multiverse 1336 00:57:09,250 --> 00:57:07,310 or parallel universes that if in this 1337 00:57:11,140 --> 00:57:09,260 particular universe the laws of physics 1338 00:57:12,850 --> 00:57:11,150 do not allow for this that and the other 1339 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:12,860 thing that doesn't mean they don't in 1340 00:57:19,540 --> 00:57:15,770 parallel universe BCDE FL you know ad 1341 00:57:22,420 --> 00:57:19,550 infinitum in non time travel research it 1342 00:57:25,210 --> 00:57:22,430 is still probably again one of the 1343 00:57:27,940 --> 00:57:25,220 biggest areas of theoretical physics 1344 00:57:29,830 --> 00:57:27,950 because we want to understand so much 1345 00:57:31,930 --> 00:57:29,840 about what what's going on out in the 1346 00:57:33,610 --> 00:57:31,940 deeper parts of the universe we want to 1347 00:57:35,380 --> 00:57:33,620 know is the black hole at the middle of 1348 00:57:37,870 --> 00:57:35,390 our Milky Way if so does it lead 1349 00:57:39,910 --> 00:57:37,880 anywhere we want to know if there are 1350 00:57:41,650 --> 00:57:39,920 other black holes we want to know if 1351 00:57:44,290 --> 00:57:41,660 there's any proof that this universe 1352 00:57:47,020 --> 00:57:44,300 lies smack alongside three or four 1353 00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:47,030 others so I think it's just really all 1354 00:57:52,270 --> 00:57:50,000 about wanting to know just like with UFO 1355 00:57:53,980 --> 00:57:52,280 research that the foundation of UFO 1356 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:53,990 research is really we want to know for a 1357 00:57:59,140 --> 00:57:56,210 loan or not and I think with all of this 1358 00:58:01,210 --> 00:57:59,150 theoretical physics and the theories of 1359 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:01,220 parallel universes multiverse alternate 1360 00:58:05,380 --> 00:58:02,810 dimensions we want to know if our 1361 00:58:07,390 --> 00:58:05,390 universe is alone or not so I think they 1362 00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:07,400 really parallel each other there's as 1363 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:09,890 you do a break down which I found very 1364 00:58:15,490 --> 00:58:13,370 fascinating which was the Max tegmark 1365 00:58:17,009 --> 00:58:15,500 kind of multiverse theory in the way 1366 00:58:18,959 --> 00:58:17,019 that he broken into 1367 00:58:23,159 --> 00:58:18,969 for different levels my favorite chapter 1368 00:58:25,289 --> 00:58:23,169 I must say was Chapter seven and by the 1369 00:58:26,759 --> 00:58:25,299 way I want to kind of reiterate I love 1370 00:58:28,829 --> 00:58:26,769 the way that you've titled all your 1371 00:58:31,889 --> 00:58:28,839 chapters after song names I thought that 1372 00:58:34,469 --> 00:58:31,899 was quite clever but time is on my side 1373 00:58:37,289 --> 00:58:34,479 very good song by Keith Richards and 1374 00:58:39,689 --> 00:58:37,299 Mick Jagger it has quite a number of 1375 00:58:42,359 --> 00:58:39,699 very interesting characters in there and 1376 00:58:44,999 --> 00:58:42,369 some recent kind of controversies 1377 00:58:47,699 --> 00:58:45,009 involving potential time travelers would 1378 00:58:53,029 --> 00:58:47,709 want to possibly talk about some of 1379 00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:53,039 these there's some good ones time travel 1380 00:58:57,959 --> 00:58:55,839 conspiracy chapter and we were really 1381 00:58:59,669 --> 00:58:57,969 excited that we were able to do this and 1382 00:59:01,709 --> 00:58:59,679 I think one of the things that make 1383 00:59:03,239 --> 00:59:01,719 Larry and I fortunate his writers said 1384 00:59:05,279 --> 00:59:03,249 again we didn't want to write a book 1385 00:59:07,709 --> 00:59:05,289 that was pure science that bored the 1386 00:59:08,969 --> 00:59:07,719 people to tears because or that they 1387 00:59:10,469 --> 00:59:08,979 didn't understand because we wouldn't 1388 00:59:13,319 --> 00:59:10,479 have understood it we wanted to be able 1389 00:59:15,630 --> 00:59:13,329 to really look at time and time-travel 1390 00:59:17,370 --> 00:59:15,640 in every aspect we could and what was 1391 00:59:19,169 --> 00:59:17,380 really fun is to find out that their 1392 00:59:21,179 --> 00:59:19,179 because I mean I was aware of a lot of 1393 00:59:23,370 --> 00:59:21,189 this already but not to the extent that 1394 00:59:27,109 --> 00:59:23,380 there are so many different urban 1395 00:59:29,819 --> 00:59:27,119 legends and and urban myths and 1396 00:59:31,439 --> 00:59:29,829 individuals who have claimed to be time 1397 00:59:34,169 --> 00:59:31,449 travelers and one of the most famous 1398 00:59:37,379 --> 00:59:34,179 ones was the Charlie Chaplin film the 1399 00:59:39,509 --> 00:59:37,389 circus which was shot in 1928 it was a 1400 00:59:41,249 --> 00:59:39,519 silent film and I guess there was I 1401 00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:41,259 don't know who noticed it but somebody 1402 00:59:47,669 --> 00:59:44,319 noticed an old woman in one of the shots 1403 00:59:50,309 --> 00:59:47,679 and she seemed to be holding up a device 1404 00:59:51,569 --> 00:59:50,319 to her ear she's just walking by and 1405 00:59:53,429 --> 00:59:51,579 there's a picture of it the book it's a 1406 00:59:55,799 --> 00:59:53,439 very famous picture all over the 1407 00:59:57,539 --> 00:59:55,809 internet and so obviously because you 1408 01:00:00,629 --> 00:59:57,549 know optimist razor the most simplest 1409 01:00:01,799 --> 01:00:00,639 explanation she's a time traveler I mean 1410 01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:01,809 I honestly don't know where that came 1411 01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:02,169 from 1412 01:00:05,819 --> 01:00:04,329 but apparently a lot of people believed 1413 01:00:08,339 --> 01:00:05,829 that she was holding a cell phone and 1414 01:00:10,469 --> 01:00:08,349 well cellphones weren't invented in 1928 1415 01:00:12,269 --> 01:00:10,479 were they so you have this huge huge 1416 01:00:14,669 --> 01:00:12,279 urban legend that was created around 1417 01:00:15,929 --> 01:00:14,679 this and of course and later people 1418 01:00:17,879 --> 01:00:15,939 started saying well you know what there 1419 01:00:20,069 --> 01:00:17,889 there were hearing aid devices at the 1420 01:00:21,719 --> 01:00:20,079 time that easily looked like that's what 1421 01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:21,729 she could have been holding and there 1422 01:00:26,099 --> 01:00:23,049 are other pictures that are famous 1423 01:00:29,129 --> 01:00:26,109 there's one from a 1948 opening of the 1424 01:00:31,010 --> 01:00:29,139 South fork's Bridge in British Columbia 1425 01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:31,020 where a guy 1426 01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:34,050 in a picture totally dressed as if he 1427 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:36,510 were modern like from today with you 1428 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:39,330 know modern sunglasses t-shirt and he's 1429 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:41,130 standing amidst all these other people 1430 01:00:45,290 --> 01:00:44,010 that are straight out of the 1940s and 1431 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:45,300 oh my god he must have been a time 1432 01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:47,490 traveler and of course somebody came 1433 01:00:51,020 --> 01:00:49,110 along and said no no no we found 1434 01:00:53,210 --> 01:00:51,030 evidence that there were sunglasses like 1435 01:00:55,790 --> 01:00:53,220 this in the 1940s I'm clothing like this 1436 01:00:58,790 --> 01:00:55,800 a lot of those but the most happening to 1437 01:01:01,730 --> 01:00:58,800 us was John Titor he made a number of 1438 01:01:03,530 --> 01:01:01,740 predictions and on the Internet most of 1439 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:03,540 which have nowhere near come true we 1440 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:05,250 talked to art Bell from coast-to-coast 1441 01:01:09,500 --> 01:01:06,930 for a couple of times did radio 1442 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:09,510 interviews and oh he claimed also to 1443 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:13,290 have built a time machine gentleman who 1444 01:01:19,550 --> 01:01:16,410 showed up on the Internet in early 2001 1445 01:01:21,830 --> 01:01:19,560 had a website and just started posting 1446 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:21,840 that he was a time traveler from the 1447 01:01:28,460 --> 01:01:25,050 Year 2036 that he was on his way home 1448 01:01:32,780 --> 01:01:28,470 after retrieving an archaic 1449 01:01:34,670 --> 01:01:32,790 IBM 5100 computer system from 1975 that 1450 01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:34,680 he was going to take back home to the 1451 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:37,200 future with him he claimed it at a time 1452 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:40,410 machine that was a temporal 1453 01:01:46,609 --> 01:01:42,530 stationary mass temporal displacement 1454 01:01:49,609 --> 01:01:46,619 unit that he kept in the back of a 1967 1455 01:01:50,900 --> 01:01:49,619 Chevy Corvette Convertible oh my gosh 1456 01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:50,910 and he made all kinds of prophecies 1457 01:01:56,450 --> 01:01:54,000 about World War three and this that and 1458 01:01:58,670 --> 01:01:56,460 the other thing that none of which came 1459 01:02:00,800 --> 01:01:58,680 true and he he talked to art Bell did 1460 01:02:03,290 --> 01:02:00,810 some coast-to-coast shows a lot of 1461 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:03,300 people engaged in online conversations 1462 01:02:07,310 --> 01:02:05,250 with him and then he just sort of 1463 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:07,320 vanished and there have been a number of 1464 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:08,490 people have tried to pin down exactly 1465 01:02:13,460 --> 01:02:11,130 who he was nobody knows for sure yet 1466 01:02:15,140 --> 01:02:13,470 just shows it goes to show you though 1467 01:02:17,510 --> 01:02:15,150 how you can have an individual come 1468 01:02:19,340 --> 01:02:17,520 forth and make any kind of claims they 1469 01:02:21,260 --> 01:02:19,350 want to and if they sound scientific 1470 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:21,270 enough it just goes viral I mean that's 1471 01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:23,130 one of the problems with the Internet 1472 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:25,920 but the most current and I think the 1473 01:02:30,980 --> 01:02:28,650 most fascinating it is and I say 1474 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:30,990 currently boy I just I know where you're 1475 01:02:37,130 --> 01:02:34,530 going with this mr. basashi oh okay so 1476 01:02:38,510 --> 01:02:37,140 yeah one of the most current time travel 1477 01:02:41,930 --> 01:02:38,520 conspiracies that we wrote about 1478 01:02:44,030 --> 01:02:41,940 actually linked to a past event the 1479 01:02:46,010 --> 01:02:44,040 Philadelphia Experiment which 1480 01:02:48,020 --> 01:02:46,020 I think everybody knows about unless 1481 01:02:50,990 --> 01:02:48,030 you've been living under a rock in the 1482 01:02:53,300 --> 01:02:51,000 1940s this alleged experiment occurred 1483 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:53,310 with the USS Eldridge whereby it was 1484 01:02:59,390 --> 01:02:56,010 rendered invisible and it's just gone on 1485 01:03:00,560 --> 01:02:59,400 to urban legend history although it's 1486 01:03:03,590 --> 01:03:00,570 never been proven 1487 01:03:06,350 --> 01:03:03,600 but anyway so out of this came what's 1488 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:06,360 called the Montauk Project and there are 1489 01:03:11,210 --> 01:03:08,490 several individuals now today in the 1490 01:03:12,830 --> 01:03:11,220 present who are coming forward and have 1491 01:03:15,050 --> 01:03:12,840 been coming forward for for a number of 1492 01:03:17,420 --> 01:03:15,060 years saying that they were involved 1493 01:03:20,090 --> 01:03:17,430 with this time-travel research that was 1494 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:20,100 going on at the Montauk location in New 1495 01:03:23,870 --> 01:03:21,810 York okay here we go with the 1496 01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:23,880 Philadelphia Experiment I think is what 1497 01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:25,440 we're talking about let's talk about it 1498 01:03:29,630 --> 01:03:27,810 more in a moment let's just say that the 1499 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:29,640 Philadelphia Experiment has formed the 1500 01:03:34,100 --> 01:03:32,130 basis of several science fiction movies 1501 01:03:36,650 --> 01:03:34,110 one as a matter of fact that was 1502 01:03:38,780 --> 01:03:36,660 presented well a few weeks ago on the 1503 01:03:41,090 --> 01:03:38,790 sci-fi channel not a terribly good one 1504 01:03:46,670 --> 01:03:41,100 with Gene and Kris we had Marie Jones 1505 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:48,550 [Music] 1506 01:03:54,650 --> 01:03:51,930 Ray Perkins a reclusive veteran burned 1507 01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:54,660 out from the Gulf War lives tortured by 1508 01:03:59,300 --> 01:03:56,930 relentless perplexing nightmares 1509 01:04:01,220 --> 01:03:59,310 nightmares of a horrific battle in deep 1510 01:04:03,470 --> 01:04:01,230 space and of a mysterious woman 1511 01:04:06,620 --> 01:04:03,480 suffering an agony for her devastated 1512 01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:06,630 world a woman not yet born calling 1513 01:04:13,250 --> 01:04:10,640 across centuries to him then a 1514 01:04:16,609 --> 01:04:13,260 coincidence leads him to his destiny his 1515 01:04:19,130 --> 01:04:16,619 chance to alter the universe attack of 1516 01:04:21,020 --> 01:04:19,140 the rocket the former fiction editor for 1517 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01:07:23,210 friends at solutions from science are 1600 01:07:27,970 --> 01:07:25,279 offering huge savings on their 1601 01:07:29,589 --> 01:07:27,980 best-selling power of unit in fact I 1602 01:07:31,930 --> 01:07:29,599 think it's the best deal I've ever seen 1603 01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:31,940 them make it's literally thousands of 1604 01:07:36,130 --> 01:07:34,400 dollars in savings remember these backup 1605 01:07:37,900 --> 01:07:36,140 systems don't need gas because they're 1606 01:07:40,599 --> 01:07:37,910 solar-powered that means there's no 1607 01:07:42,519 --> 01:07:40,609 dangerous fumes and no noise Infowars 1608 01:07:45,940 --> 01:07:42,529 listeners can get all the details at 1609 01:07:51,549 --> 01:07:45,950 beat the blackouts calm that's beat the 1610 01:07:53,410 --> 01:07:51,559 blackouts dot-com we'd like to hear from 1611 01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:53,420 you if you have a comment or question 1612 01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:56,930 about the power cast sent it to news at 1613 01:08:03,370 --> 01:07:57,290 the 1614 01:08:05,860 --> 01:08:03,380 caste calm and don't forget to visit our 1615 01:08:11,050 --> 01:08:05,870 famous para caste community forums at 1616 01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:11,060 forum dr parra caste calm Marie Jones 1617 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:13,520 joining Gian Chris she's co-author the 1618 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:15,650 book this book is from the future we're 1619 01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:17,210 talking about Montauk and that always 1620 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:18,799 relates to the Philadelphia Experiment 1621 01:08:25,900 --> 01:08:21,290 the stuff of legend the stuff of science 1622 01:08:28,900 --> 01:08:25,910 fiction right Carlos a end day yes these 1623 01:08:31,270 --> 01:08:28,910 names blaylak but what's really cool 1624 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:31,280 though is are these these people there's 1625 01:08:37,780 --> 01:08:35,210 a number of gentlemen Andy pero John 1626 01:08:40,030 --> 01:08:37,790 burek under Bashar go and a number of 1627 01:08:42,910 --> 01:08:40,040 others who are coming forward or 1628 01:08:45,480 --> 01:08:42,920 happened coming forward using events 1629 01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:45,490 that they speak out radio the internet 1630 01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:47,600 YouTube videos where they're talking 1631 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:50,480 about time-travel research that occurred 1632 01:08:56,740 --> 01:08:54,530 back in the 70s under the supervision of 1633 01:08:58,630 --> 01:08:56,750 DARPA gotta bring the government in 1634 01:09:00,130 --> 01:08:58,640 there you know the conspiracy and DARPA 1635 01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:00,140 is the Defense Advanced Research 1636 01:09:04,480 --> 01:09:02,330 Projects Agency for anybody who wondered 1637 01:09:08,050 --> 01:09:04,490 what DARPA stood for well apparently 1638 01:09:10,450 --> 01:09:08,060 some of these gentlemen as children were 1639 01:09:13,630 --> 01:09:10,460 brought into this project and trained 1640 01:09:16,690 --> 01:09:13,640 and utilized in time-travel experiments 1641 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:16,700 and they used what's called a time 1642 01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:19,370 travel chair it involved going through a 1643 01:09:23,890 --> 01:09:20,930 wormhole we've talked about those before 1644 01:09:27,220 --> 01:09:23,900 and there's all kinds of science that's 1645 01:09:30,190 --> 01:09:27,230 been discussed in terms of how this 1646 01:09:33,070 --> 01:09:30,200 chair operated it sort of dropped into a 1647 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:33,080 wormhole that took these child Crona 1648 01:09:37,300 --> 01:09:34,970 knots as they were called into the past 1649 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:37,310 or the future to do whatever retrieve 1650 01:09:41,829 --> 01:09:39,410 information whatever the goal of the 1651 01:09:44,170 --> 01:09:41,839 particular experiment was one gentleman 1652 01:09:46,990 --> 01:09:44,180 aunt Andy pero was sent back to World 1653 01:09:48,910 --> 01:09:47,000 War two and there are different projects 1654 01:09:51,430 --> 01:09:48,920 that have been involved a number of them 1655 01:09:53,950 --> 01:09:51,440 that have come out of this Montauk chair 1656 01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:53,960 myth I guess I mean I don't want to say 1657 01:09:56,830 --> 01:09:55,490 it actually happened I also don't want 1658 01:09:58,810 --> 01:09:56,840 to say it didn't because I don't know 1659 01:10:02,320 --> 01:09:58,820 but I'll tell you one thing of course 1660 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:02,330 that bothers me is the fact that we have 1661 01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:04,250 all these characters who over the years 1662 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:07,130 turned up on art bells radio show we 1663 01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:08,930 have someone who claims have been 1664 01:10:11,620 --> 01:10:10,250 involved in time 1665 01:10:13,330 --> 01:10:11,630 Travel as a matter of fact one person 1666 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:13,340 came on there and claimed it was Jim 1667 01:10:17,140 --> 01:10:14,570 Morrison from The Doors 1668 01:10:19,390 --> 01:10:17,150 who died the age of 27 he faked his 1669 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:19,400 death right right right 1670 01:10:23,380 --> 01:10:20,690 we have people who can get on the radio 1671 01:10:24,910 --> 01:10:23,390 which I guess is cool yeah but doesn't 1672 01:10:27,070 --> 01:10:24,920 even have the truth from their hands 1673 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:27,080 exactly one at one individual and I 1674 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:28,730 called him John by mistake was dan 1675 01:10:35,020 --> 01:10:31,730 burisch now he claimed that he worked 1676 01:10:38,020 --> 01:10:35,030 for a very old tree top secret program 1677 01:10:41,620 --> 01:10:38,030 that was out at area 51 the notorious 1678 01:10:44,470 --> 01:10:41,630 area 51 groom lake top secret facility 1679 01:10:47,140 --> 01:10:44,480 in Nevada and his project was called 1680 01:10:50,380 --> 01:10:47,150 project Looking Glass and it involved 1681 01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:50,390 stargates man-made devices they acted 1682 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:52,130 sort of as portals to take you into 1683 01:10:55,570 --> 01:10:53,810 another timeline or dimension and what I 1684 01:10:57,970 --> 01:10:55,580 find so fascinating about that as you 1685 01:11:00,400 --> 01:10:57,980 know we've got this TV show that's been 1686 01:11:02,350 --> 01:11:00,410 on forever Stargate and and again the 1687 01:11:04,900 --> 01:11:02,360 links between fact and fiction and where 1688 01:11:07,930 --> 01:11:04,910 where does the line blur from when it's 1689 01:11:10,210 --> 01:11:07,940 the other now to be precise the movie 1690 01:11:12,340 --> 01:11:10,220 Stargate from the 1990s which warned 1691 01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:12,350 several TV series three as a matter of 1692 01:11:19,230 --> 01:11:15,760 fact it talked about this large object 1693 01:11:21,610 --> 01:11:19,240 that's recovered which supposedly 1694 01:11:24,070 --> 01:11:21,620 instantaneously transports you through 1695 01:11:26,020 --> 01:11:24,080 some sort of wormhole to another place 1696 01:11:28,090 --> 01:11:26,030 in the universe and of the galaxies and 1697 01:11:31,690 --> 01:11:28,100 of a star system not so much another 1698 01:11:34,660 --> 01:11:31,700 time but another place right right now 1699 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:34,670 Burris claims that our that these 1700 01:11:38,770 --> 01:11:36,530 stargates are rings 1701 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:38,780 they're like man-made devices rings 1702 01:11:44,980 --> 01:11:42,410 portals that are found naturally in some 1703 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:44,990 places but there are man-made ones as 1704 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:49,130 well where people can not only go sort 1705 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:51,130 of cut through space but also time 1706 01:12:01,360 --> 01:11:53,090 supposedly there's one right up the road 1707 01:12:03,190 --> 01:12:01,370 from me in Sedona I've not been there 1708 01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:03,200 yet I can't believe it but everybody I 1709 01:12:06,010 --> 01:12:04,490 know who's been there now I don't know 1710 01:12:10,770 --> 01:12:06,020 how do you feel have you been there and 1711 01:12:14,230 --> 01:12:10,780 felt like you were in another reality 1712 01:12:15,790 --> 01:12:14,240 well that's the the people that live in 1713 01:12:18,970 --> 01:12:15,800 Sedona kind of make you feel that way 1714 01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:18,980 the place itself no there are very 1715 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:21,449 unusual energetic properties all over 1716 01:12:29,300 --> 01:12:25,370 in the Red Rock Mogi on rim region but 1717 01:12:32,570 --> 01:12:29,310 something you know as exotic as you know 1718 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:32,580 an actual wormhole or time portal I I 1719 01:12:36,979 --> 01:12:34,890 seriously doubt that but you never know 1720 01:12:38,810 --> 01:12:36,989 like you said you can't you can't factor 1721 01:12:41,300 --> 01:12:38,820 everything out and you can't Factor 1722 01:12:44,030 --> 01:12:41,310 anything in really and and the thing is 1723 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:44,040 that you know I love a good conspiracy I 1724 01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:45,570 do believe where there's smoke there's 1725 01:12:49,700 --> 01:12:48,449 often fire not always but often and and 1726 01:12:52,610 --> 01:12:49,710 so what you have to do is you have to be 1727 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:52,620 really discerning here well these these 1728 01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:56,489 people really are very passionate very 1729 01:13:00,110 --> 01:12:58,560 detailed when they describe what 1730 01:13:01,310 --> 01:13:00,120 happened to them and what they went 1731 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:01,320 through almost as if it's been 1732 01:13:06,979 --> 01:13:03,330 programmed I mean I don't remember what 1733 01:13:09,979 --> 01:13:06,989 I had for dinner yesterday but when er 1734 01:13:12,470 --> 01:13:09,989 these people talk they just they're so 1735 01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:12,480 full of times and dates and statistics 1736 01:13:16,700 --> 01:13:14,640 and this is what so-and-so was wearing 1737 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:16,710 and we were here I mean the description 1738 01:13:20,330 --> 01:13:18,810 is just mind-boggling I talked about 1739 01:13:23,150 --> 01:13:20,340 this with a couple of other people 1740 01:13:25,310 --> 01:13:23,160 saying how did you know boishakh oh just 1741 01:13:27,950 --> 01:13:25,320 the detail of his descriptions of what 1742 01:13:30,260 --> 01:13:27,960 happened on these Crono not time-travel 1743 01:13:33,050 --> 01:13:30,270 experiments is mind boggling but that 1744 01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:33,060 still doesn't necessarily mean that 1745 01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:34,800 would happen to him actually happen I 1746 01:13:39,410 --> 01:13:37,110 guess it's possible he took notes yeah 1747 01:13:41,630 --> 01:13:39,420 you could have written this down in his 1748 01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:41,640 personal diary but you no wonder that 1749 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:45,210 sometimes having too much detail can in 1750 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:49,050 and of itself be a reason to distrust 1751 01:13:54,169 --> 01:13:52,170 the person is that strange when people 1752 01:13:56,090 --> 01:13:54,179 tell you too much you distrust it when 1753 01:13:58,850 --> 01:13:56,100 they don't tell you enough where's that 1754 01:14:01,370 --> 01:13:58,860 fine line but again I think we all know 1755 01:14:03,070 --> 01:14:01,380 that the military the government 1756 01:14:05,990 --> 01:14:03,080 whatever you want to call it them 1757 01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:06,000 whatever's going on scientifically in 1758 01:14:11,030 --> 01:14:08,640 the academic the halls of academia you 1759 01:14:13,610 --> 01:14:11,040 got a figure that there are research 1760 01:14:16,729 --> 01:14:13,620 projects going out under the radar that 1761 01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:16,739 are maybe 2025 years ahead it just seems 1762 01:14:22,070 --> 01:14:19,170 to be that way and that's fine so this 1763 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:22,080 could be happening it also could just be 1764 01:14:27,950 --> 01:14:25,050 complete fabrication and I I just think 1765 01:14:31,790 --> 01:14:27,960 that a secret that big yeah I agree and 1766 01:14:33,729 --> 01:14:31,800 in this latest round of claims by this 1767 01:14:36,820 --> 01:14:33,739 Laura Eisenhower and 1768 01:14:39,729 --> 01:14:36,830 and basashi Oh about being trained to go 1769 01:14:43,660 --> 01:14:39,739 to Mars and they went with a group of 1770 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:43,670 others including Barack Obama Barry's 1771 01:14:50,770 --> 01:14:47,690 tutorial wonder how his blackberry would 1772 01:14:52,900 --> 01:14:50,780 work on Mars what was really strange to 1773 01:14:54,940 --> 01:14:52,910 me about the whole thing as they you 1774 01:14:57,459 --> 01:14:54,950 know they claim that ed Dame's of 1775 01:14:59,410 --> 01:14:57,469 coast-to-coast fame who has made 1776 01:15:01,680 --> 01:14:59,420 probably more predictions that haven't 1777 01:15:03,700 --> 01:15:01,690 come true on art bill than anybody else 1778 01:15:05,260 --> 01:15:03,710 Dame's suppose it was the one that 1779 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:05,270 trained them and when he found out that 1780 01:15:09,070 --> 01:15:07,010 he had been you know fingered as the 1781 01:15:10,420 --> 01:15:09,080 trainer he totally denied it and said I 1782 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:10,430 don't know what these people are talking 1783 01:15:16,209 --> 01:15:14,570 about so it's it gets very weird you 1784 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:16,219 know somebody told me something that 1785 01:15:21,340 --> 01:15:18,410 made a lot of sense that you know it 1786 01:15:23,890 --> 01:15:21,350 just sounds more like misinformation or 1787 01:15:25,959 --> 01:15:23,900 disinformation I mean you to sort of 1788 01:15:28,390 --> 01:15:25,969 cover up what might really be going on 1789 01:15:30,090 --> 01:15:28,400 and you've got these people coming 1790 01:15:33,310 --> 01:15:30,100 forward that are just making these 1791 01:15:35,110 --> 01:15:33,320 outlandish claims so what happens is the 1792 01:15:36,729 --> 01:15:35,120 public will automatically shut down and 1793 01:15:37,240 --> 01:15:36,739 say they're all full of crap none of 1794 01:15:39,820 --> 01:15:37,250 it's true 1795 01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:39,830 yes there could be seeds of truth that 1796 01:15:44,830 --> 01:15:41,810 are being ignored because we're focused 1797 01:15:47,770 --> 01:15:44,840 on the more outlandish claims that's how 1798 01:15:49,690 --> 01:15:47,780 it works I guess the conspiracy theory 1799 01:15:51,310 --> 01:15:49,700 we're trying to maybe resurrect these 1800 01:15:52,959 --> 01:15:51,320 claims it's not just people who run 1801 01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:52,969 around wanting to have their 15 minutes 1802 01:15:58,209 --> 01:15:55,730 of fame especially today we have reality 1803 01:16:00,370 --> 01:15:58,219 shows where we have people make their 1804 01:16:02,740 --> 01:16:00,380 lives into something that should be 1805 01:16:03,910 --> 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--> 01:21:18,600 the past I guess now the other question 1932 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:20,910 of course we have here is according to 1933 01:21:25,820 --> 01:21:23,010 Einstein we can't break the speed of 1934 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:25,830 light it is because of the theory of 1935 01:21:30,980 --> 01:21:28,650 relativity that's the barrier we can't 1936 01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:30,990 get through it we create science fiction 1937 01:21:36,590 --> 01:21:33,690 gimmicks like right drive to do it in 1938 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:36,600 the real world science has not yet 1939 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:39,210 proven that the theory of relativity is 1940 01:21:44,750 --> 01:21:42,210 wrong we had almost we thought evidence 1941 01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:44,760 a time travel or warp travel or 1942 01:21:48,830 --> 01:21:46,320 something could take place and didn't 1943 01:21:52,670 --> 01:21:48,840 come to pass so how does science 1944 01:21:53,330 --> 01:21:52,680 reconcile Einstein with warp drive or 1945 01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:53,340 anything like that 1946 01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:55,890 you know Einstein did not know 1947 01:22:01,820 --> 01:21:57,600 everything I hate to say that because 1948 01:22:03,650 --> 01:22:01,830 you think you know even before he died 1949 01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:03,660 he was absolutely certain that 1950 01:22:07,700 --> 01:22:06,030 nonlocality or entanglement the idea 1951 01:22:09,790 --> 01:22:07,710 that particles that come in contact with 1952 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:09,800 each other can communicate 1953 01:22:16,700 --> 01:22:13,410 instantaneously over a vast expanse of 1954 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:16,710 space he did not believe that and it was 1955 01:22:20,660 --> 01:22:19,290 proven after his death John Bell and 1956 01:22:23,300 --> 01:22:20,670 Ellen aspect and a number of other 1957 01:22:26,300 --> 01:22:23,310 experiments proved Einstein to be wrong 1958 01:22:28,250 --> 01:22:26,310 on that I think that Einstein and I know 1959 01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:28,260 that I've read interviews and books 1960 01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,040 about him where he did claim that what 1961 01:22:36,350 --> 01:22:34,080 he was lying down as Laura fact would 1962 01:22:39,650 --> 01:22:36,360 one day be overturned and it's just a 1963 01:22:42,500 --> 01:22:39,660 matter of these are the known laws of 1964 01:22:44,930 --> 01:22:42,510 physics the known laws of nature of our 1965 01:22:46,490 --> 01:22:44,940 universe now that doesn't mean they're 1966 01:22:48,770 --> 01:22:46,500 going to be a year from now I mean I 1967 01:22:51,470 --> 01:22:48,780 think that we're constantly uncovering 1968 01:22:53,300 --> 01:22:51,480 new knowledge and information and the 1969 01:22:55,460 --> 01:22:53,310 further we reach out into the universe 1970 01:22:56,270 --> 01:22:55,470 there was an experiment done and I don't 1971 01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:56,280 have the D 1972 01:23:01,070 --> 01:22:57,840 Hills I think it might be in the book I 1973 01:23:04,220 --> 01:23:01,080 know learn I wrote about it before where 1974 01:23:07,190 --> 01:23:04,230 they these particular researchers showed 1975 01:23:09,500 --> 01:23:07,200 that at the vast distances in our 1976 01:23:11,870 --> 01:23:09,510 universe the laws of physics may not 1977 01:23:15,610 --> 01:23:11,880 apply they may be different within our 1978 01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:15,620 own universe so why then would we 1979 01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:18,690 suggest that what Einstein came up with 1980 01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:20,610 is never going to be overturned I mean 1981 01:23:25,250 --> 01:23:23,130 we don't even know at the vast furthest 1982 01:23:27,500 --> 01:23:25,260 reaches of our own universe how light 1983 01:23:29,540 --> 01:23:27,510 may operate how these laws of physics 1984 01:23:32,030 --> 01:23:29,550 may operate it's always going to be 1985 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:32,040 overturned as to matter I'm a matter of 1986 01:23:36,830 --> 01:23:34,770 looking deeper looking further out 1987 01:23:39,740 --> 01:23:36,840 there's going to be a particle that 1988 01:23:42,410 --> 01:23:39,750 somebody discovers that can move faster 1989 01:23:45,020 --> 01:23:42,420 than light who knows I just again I 1990 01:23:47,060 --> 01:23:45,030 always believe that everything that we 1991 01:23:48,530 --> 01:23:47,070 know is fact will one day be overturned 1992 01:23:50,420 --> 01:23:48,540 I mean come on you know you got to think 1993 01:23:53,510 --> 01:23:50,430 about how a long time ago they thought 1994 01:23:56,540 --> 01:23:53,520 the earth was flat and and that was fact 1995 01:23:58,760 --> 01:23:56,550 we once believed that the earth was flat 1996 01:24:00,980 --> 01:23:58,770 we once believed that the earth was the 1997 01:24:04,490 --> 01:24:00,990 center of the solar system these were 1998 01:24:06,260 --> 01:24:04,500 actual facts and of course somebody 1999 01:24:08,270 --> 01:24:06,270 would come along and say I've got some 2000 01:24:09,950 --> 01:24:08,280 observations to the contrary and the 2001 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:09,960 next thing he knew there was new 2002 01:24:14,630 --> 01:24:12,090 scientific laws new facts being laid 2003 01:24:15,980 --> 01:24:14,640 down so we're always easily either 2004 01:24:18,140 --> 01:24:15,990 sometimes that went on with great 2005 01:24:20,540 --> 01:24:18,150 difficulty someone from the US Patent 2006 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:20,550 Office suggested in the late 1890s or 2007 01:24:25,970 --> 01:24:23,010 somewhere around that time that most of 2008 01:24:28,550 --> 01:24:25,980 everything that could be invented had 2009 01:24:30,050 --> 01:24:28,560 been invented nice if we went back 2010 01:24:35,450 --> 01:24:30,060 through time and handed this guy an 2011 01:24:37,220 --> 01:24:35,460 iPhone he might change his tune come on 2012 01:24:40,130 --> 01:24:37,230 he was just hiding it he didn't want 2013 01:24:45,110 --> 01:24:40,140 everybody to know but I certainly think 2014 01:24:48,110 --> 01:24:45,120 that science catches up to itself you 2015 01:24:50,810 --> 01:24:48,120 know what we consider fact today could 2016 01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:50,820 just completely be overturned 20-30 2017 01:24:55,550 --> 01:24:53,130 years from now as we progress with 2018 01:24:58,790 --> 01:24:55,560 technology and our ability to really see 2019 01:25:00,980 --> 01:24:58,800 the the structure of what we're made of 2020 01:25:02,300 --> 01:25:00,990 what the universe is made of we're 2021 01:25:04,220 --> 01:25:02,310 learning something new and like I said 2022 01:25:07,130 --> 01:25:04,230 before it just seems like every day 2023 01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:07,140 there's a new research story that comes 2024 01:25:11,570 --> 01:25:09,450 forward and you feel like why did 2025 01:25:14,390 --> 01:25:11,580 include that in the book it's just 2026 01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:14,400 amazing how knowledge is just coming at 2027 01:25:19,460 --> 01:25:16,890 us so quickly one of my favorite stories 2028 01:25:22,430 --> 01:25:19,470 in the book deals with two scientists at 2029 01:25:25,730 --> 01:25:22,440 the the Large Hadron Collider predicting 2030 01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:25,740 that that the future may not want the 2031 01:25:29,740 --> 01:25:27,690 collider to actually discover the god 2032 01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:29,750 particle the the Higgs boson particle 2033 01:25:34,490 --> 01:25:32,370 and sure enough they had this strange 2034 01:25:35,930 --> 01:25:34,500 event which which happened you want to 2035 01:25:37,550 --> 01:25:35,940 want to kind of quickly tell that story 2036 01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:37,560 that's that's pretty fascinating I 2037 01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:39,930 remember when that happened there was a 2038 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:44,400 bird that landed or flew into now I'm 2039 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:46,650 trying to remember but there was a bird 2040 01:25:51,950 --> 01:25:48,570 that apparently sabotaged 2041 01:25:54,500 --> 01:25:51,960 some of the computer system and it just 2042 01:25:58,400 --> 01:25:54,510 shut it down for a while and it was just 2043 01:26:01,670 --> 01:25:58,410 a simple act of nature and these two 2044 01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:01,680 gentlemen just really felt like if the 2045 01:26:06,770 --> 01:26:03,600 bird had been sent from the future to 2046 01:26:09,020 --> 01:26:06,780 literally sabotage the entire operation 2047 01:26:10,430 --> 01:26:09,030 as a warning you know don't do this 2048 01:26:11,540 --> 01:26:10,440 you're not supposed again we're talking 2049 01:26:14,810 --> 01:26:11,550 about before you're not supposed to 2050 01:26:19,190 --> 01:26:14,820 tamper with certain things including 2051 01:26:20,780 --> 01:26:19,200 time just one of our little time travel 2052 01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:20,790 conspiracies that we threw in there that 2053 01:26:25,330 --> 01:26:22,320 actually happened there was another one 2054 01:26:27,650 --> 01:26:25,340 that was actually a piece of baguette 2055 01:26:30,110 --> 01:26:27,660 somebody was eating a sandwich I guess 2056 01:26:32,530 --> 01:26:30,120 and a piece of baguette fell where it 2057 01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:32,540 shouldn't have and bogged some of the 2058 01:26:37,070 --> 01:26:34,410 experiments and so there was the 2059 01:26:39,530 --> 01:26:37,080 baguette conspiracy that the person was 2060 01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:39,540 eating the sandwich and and it broke and 2061 01:26:44,540 --> 01:26:41,850 it but this had happened because it was 2062 01:26:46,460 --> 01:26:44,550 meant to stop all of the research that 2063 01:26:48,170 --> 01:26:46,470 was going on at the LHC from ever 2064 01:26:49,850 --> 01:26:48,180 happening because we might find 2065 01:26:51,740 --> 01:26:49,860 wormholes or black holes and then we'd 2066 01:26:54,590 --> 01:26:51,750 all be sucked into a black hole and on 2067 01:26:56,900 --> 01:26:54,600 and on and on so just and but it is 2068 01:27:01,310 --> 01:26:56,910 interesting because it goes the ethics 2069 01:27:04,190 --> 01:27:01,320 and morals of whether it's with playing 2070 01:27:06,830 --> 01:27:04,200 God quote-unquote and trying to figure 2071 01:27:08,510 --> 01:27:06,840 out how everything works because what do 2072 01:27:10,700 --> 01:27:08,520 we usually do once we figure out how 2073 01:27:13,490 --> 01:27:10,710 things work we usually try to manipulate 2074 01:27:15,650 --> 01:27:13,500 it and change it and work it ourselves 2075 01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:15,660 yeah well we have been sucked into a 2076 01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:22,640 exactly but we're not coming out the 2077 01:27:31,250 --> 01:27:23,370 other end 2078 01:27:33,740 --> 01:27:31,260 white hole shout out are you trying to 2079 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:33,750 say to all the people who are elected to 2080 01:27:43,420 --> 01:27:35,970 Congress all the elected officials are 2081 01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:43,430 worms that's one way of putting a gene 2082 01:27:48,110 --> 01:27:45,810 they could be time travelers from the 2083 01:27:50,810 --> 01:27:48,120 future sent to mess up our president you 2084 01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:50,820 never know well they sure as heck did 2085 01:27:58,340 --> 01:27:55,530 that but you have to wonder too if there 2086 01:28:00,380 --> 01:27:58,350 are time travelers how would we even 2087 01:28:03,260 --> 01:28:00,390 know how would we really know unless 2088 01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:03,270 someone came to you and say ok I am a 2089 01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:05,040 time traveler of course why believe him 2090 01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:07,170 right and I mean people have done that 2091 01:28:10,010 --> 01:28:09,450 John Titor and what do we do we think 2092 01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:10,020 they're nuts 2093 01:28:15,350 --> 01:28:13,050 and I'm not sure what would constitute 2094 01:28:15,890 --> 01:28:15,360 proof they they would have to do 2095 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:15,900 something 2096 01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:19,170 pretty outrageous in front of my eyes to 2097 01:28:23,780 --> 01:28:22,170 make me believe that they and I'm not 2098 01:28:26,900 --> 01:28:23,790 sure what that would be show me the 2099 01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:26,910 device let me try it out take me on a 2100 01:28:32,540 --> 01:28:29,250 trip in the TARDIS yeah give free TARDIS 2101 01:28:34,820 --> 01:28:32,550 rides to skeptics and scientists and you 2102 01:28:36,440 --> 01:28:34,830 know still you'd have large segments of 2103 01:28:40,130 --> 01:28:36,450 society that would say well it's the 2104 01:28:42,710 --> 01:28:40,140 devil it's you know they have to show 2105 01:28:46,340 --> 01:28:42,720 some technology from the future so they 2106 01:28:48,650 --> 01:28:46,350 came from 500 years hence show me some 2107 01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:48,660 technology that indicates to me that you 2108 01:28:53,290 --> 01:28:50,730 have something some information some 2109 01:28:56,440 --> 01:28:53,300 knowledge some capability that we do not 2110 01:28:59,630 --> 01:28:56,450 understand right and now there's another 2111 01:29:01,880 --> 01:28:59,640 paradox sort of future related paradox 2112 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:01,890 about that just as there the pass 2113 01:29:06,440 --> 01:29:03,690 related and that is that if you have 2114 01:29:09,020 --> 01:29:06,450 people come from the future and give us 2115 01:29:11,330 --> 01:29:09,030 knowledge and information and this and 2116 01:29:13,370 --> 01:29:11,340 that the other thing basically you're 2117 01:29:15,620 --> 01:29:13,380 screwing up our ability in the present 2118 01:29:18,380 --> 01:29:15,630 to achieve those things you're you're 2119 01:29:19,910 --> 01:29:18,390 sort of making us obsolete because if 2120 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:19,920 we're getting everything from the future 2121 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:21,090 what's the point of living in the 2122 01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:22,650 present you know it reminds you the 2123 01:29:28,370 --> 01:29:26,010 scene in Star Trek the voyage home the 2124 01:29:33,460 --> 01:29:28,380 one that Leonard Nimoy directed was a 2125 01:29:36,780 --> 01:29:33,470 scene in this plant where Scottie and 2126 01:29:39,530 --> 01:29:36,790 dr. McCoy enter there and of course they 2127 01:29:41,940 --> 01:29:39,540 wanted to have something that could take 2128 01:29:44,490 --> 01:29:41,950 humpback whales to the future 2129 01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:44,500 right it's one of the best Star Trek 2130 01:29:48,270 --> 01:29:46,690 films kind of funny kind of different 2131 01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:48,280 for a normal Star Trek they went back 2132 01:29:55,170 --> 01:29:50,530 for time and what they do is they use 2133 01:29:57,540 --> 01:29:55,180 warp drive to make the enterprise leap 2134 01:30:00,150 --> 01:29:57,550 around the Sun and therefore go back 2135 01:30:03,140 --> 01:30:00,160 through time so they go back to the 20th 2136 01:30:05,370 --> 01:30:03,150 century the 1980s in San Francisco 2137 01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:05,380 search for the humpback whale 2138 01:30:10,620 --> 01:30:08,410 what happened ampulla whistle yes on 2139 01:30:13,290 --> 01:30:10,630 nuclear a whistle I'll tell you we can 2140 01:30:16,020 --> 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hello 2251 01:34:55,590 --> 01:34:52,570 this is john burroughs one of the 2252 01:34:57,810 --> 01:34:55,600 witnesses to the Rendlesham UFO incident 2253 01:35:05,679 --> 01:34:57,820 you're listening to the podcast the gold 2254 01:35:10,449 --> 01:35:07,719 with gene and Chris you're in the para 2255 01:35:12,489 --> 01:35:10,459 cast and we're talking about some of the 2256 01:35:15,399 --> 01:35:12,499 funny lines in the movie of Star Trek 2257 01:35:17,589 --> 01:35:15,409 for the voyage home from the 1980s this 2258 01:35:20,620 --> 01:35:17,599 is where they go back to the past to 2259 01:35:22,569 --> 01:35:20,630 basically get a humpback whale so of 2260 01:35:26,319 --> 01:35:22,579 course they need some way to contain 2261 01:35:28,569 --> 01:35:26,329 water and the whales in this stolen 2262 01:35:29,679 --> 01:35:28,579 Klingon spaceship this is very involved 2263 01:35:32,799 --> 01:35:29,689 I'm sure a lot of you have seen the 2264 01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:32,809 movie okay so dr. McCoy and Scotty go to 2265 01:35:37,959 --> 01:35:35,570 this plant and they said hey you know 2266 01:35:40,839 --> 01:35:37,969 what why can't we make transparent 2267 01:35:43,569 --> 01:35:40,849 aluminum and the flame manager says why 2268 01:35:45,489 --> 01:35:43,579 and so Scotty goes to this computer 2269 01:35:47,140 --> 01:35:45,499 which is by the way the first generation 2270 01:35:48,699 --> 01:35:47,150 Mac and he picks up the mouse and he 2271 01:35:50,919 --> 01:35:48,709 says come kill ha ha 2272 01:35:53,500 --> 01:35:50,929 and then realizes he has to type on the 2273 01:35:56,890 --> 01:35:53,510 keyboard and he shows them how to make 2274 01:35:58,810 --> 01:35:56,900 transparent aluminum and dr. McCoy says 2275 01:36:01,239 --> 01:35:58,820 how you know you're not changing the 2276 01:36:03,549 --> 01:36:01,249 past by doing that and his response is 2277 01:36:06,879 --> 01:36:03,559 I'm paraphrasing well how do you know he 2278 01:36:09,009 --> 01:36:06,889 hadn't invented it already the answer 2279 01:36:12,219 --> 01:36:09,019 being that this is part of the future 2280 01:36:13,899 --> 01:36:12,229 timeline to change right yep that's what 2281 01:36:15,909 --> 01:36:13,909 you could say every single thing that 2282 01:36:17,679 --> 01:36:15,919 happens even going back and changing 2283 01:36:20,469 --> 01:36:17,689 everything that's part of the original 2284 01:36:22,689 --> 01:36:20,479 plan that's a way to get around that 2285 01:36:25,149 --> 01:36:22,699 parrot you can never change the past 2286 01:36:28,060 --> 01:36:25,159 because whatever you do to change the 2287 01:36:29,049 --> 01:36:28,070 past is preordained exactly it's all 2288 01:36:32,229 --> 01:36:29,059 meant to be 2289 01:36:34,029 --> 01:36:32,239 I like those three words I think okay if 2290 01:36:36,790 --> 01:36:34,039 I had to choose between which was more 2291 01:36:39,159 --> 01:36:36,800 confusing the science behind time-travel 2292 01:36:40,959 --> 01:36:39,169 or all of these philosophical elements 2293 01:36:43,089 --> 01:36:40,969 with the paradoxes I would definitely 2294 01:36:45,790 --> 01:36:43,099 choose the philosophical elements I mean 2295 01:36:47,949 --> 01:36:45,800 your mind really can get boggled 2296 01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:47,959 thinking about how do you get around 2297 01:36:55,089 --> 01:36:52,489 these these loops of thought where one 2298 01:36:57,689 --> 01:36:55,099 of the most the coolest most recent 2299 01:37:00,339 --> 01:36:57,699 books that I read was Stephen King's 2300 01:37:02,589 --> 01:37:00,349 11/22/63 about the JFK assassination 2301 01:37:04,509 --> 01:37:02,599 where I don't know if you guys read it 2302 01:37:07,299 --> 01:37:04,519 but a man is sent back in time to stop 2303 01:37:10,270 --> 01:37:07,309 the assassination and he covers these 2304 01:37:12,459 --> 01:37:10,280 paradoxes just brilliantly the whole 2305 01:37:14,679 --> 01:37:12,469 idea being can you go back and fix the 2306 01:37:17,109 --> 01:37:14,689 pass without breaking the future and 2307 01:37:19,210 --> 01:37:17,119 gets into all the ideas of alternate 2308 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:19,220 timelines and what have you so 2309 01:37:24,730 --> 01:37:21,650 want to know give us a spoiler did you 2310 01:37:26,590 --> 01:37:24,740 succeed in preventing the death of JFK I 2311 01:37:29,220 --> 01:37:26,600 can't give you a spoiler because the 2312 01:37:32,290 --> 01:37:29,230 book is so involved there's another 2313 01:37:34,150 --> 01:37:32,300 scenario that goes on is sort of a 2314 01:37:35,890 --> 01:37:34,160 backstory I would highly recommend 2315 01:37:37,780 --> 01:37:35,900 people read it because if you really 2316 01:37:41,260 --> 01:37:37,790 want to understand the ethical and moral 2317 01:37:43,630 --> 01:37:41,270 problems behind time travel if it's not 2318 01:37:46,690 --> 01:37:43,640 all predetermined then it's just a 2319 01:37:50,260 --> 01:37:46,700 fantastic example of somebody working 2320 01:37:53,410 --> 01:37:50,270 fact into fiction but that's the thing 2321 01:37:55,540 --> 01:37:53,420 now if you say that everything is meant 2322 01:37:57,760 --> 01:37:55,550 to be and everything is set in stone 2323 01:37:59,860 --> 01:37:57,770 you're bringing a religious element into 2324 01:38:00,700 --> 01:37:59,870 everything a lot of people are not 2325 01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:00,710 comfortable with that 2326 01:38:05,530 --> 01:38:02,570 so they'll they'll just sort of shun 2327 01:38:08,650 --> 01:38:05,540 that whole theory but each paradox has 2328 01:38:10,870 --> 01:38:08,660 its own problems and again sometimes the 2329 01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:10,880 only way around them or is to come up 2330 01:38:14,260 --> 01:38:12,410 with theoretical things like the 2331 01:38:16,180 --> 01:38:14,270 multiverse well you could do that you 2332 01:38:18,490 --> 01:38:16,190 can't do that here but you could do it 2333 01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:18,500 there let's take an all-purpose solution 2334 01:38:21,730 --> 01:38:20,480 and excuse for whatever doesn't work 2335 01:38:24,010 --> 01:38:21,740 here yeah you could do it in that 2336 01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:24,020 universe sure one of my favorite 2337 01:38:29,620 --> 01:38:27,410 potential paradoxes involves the you 2338 01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:29,630 know the now-infamous data of December 2339 01:38:37,510 --> 01:38:35,330 21st 2012 and I've wondered if possibly 2340 01:38:41,850 --> 01:38:37,520 this could be when time travel is 2341 01:38:45,610 --> 01:38:41,860 actually first made operational and 2342 01:38:47,890 --> 01:38:45,620 because that's the furthest back that 2343 01:38:49,090 --> 01:38:47,900 time travel exists wouldn't it be 2344 01:38:51,850 --> 01:38:49,100 interesting if all of a sudden the 2345 01:38:53,890 --> 01:38:51,860 secret DARPA project breaks the time 2346 01:38:56,830 --> 01:38:53,900 barrier if you will and then all of a 2347 01:38:58,870 --> 01:38:56,840 sudden you know we're flooded with time 2348 01:39:01,030 --> 01:38:58,880 travelers coming back to the earliest 2349 01:39:03,310 --> 01:39:01,040 place that they can go in the timeline 2350 01:39:05,830 --> 01:39:03,320 and then that might tie into the whole 2351 01:39:08,530 --> 01:39:05,840 Mayan thing about transformation of 2352 01:39:13,510 --> 01:39:08,540 humanity and blah blah blah it's cool 2353 01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:13,520 sci-fi story you know who knows it could 2354 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:16,400 very well be that was that was the day 2355 01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:19,610 what in the I mean in our past to the 2356 01:39:24,190 --> 01:39:21,440 Mayans that could have been the day the 2357 01:39:25,480 --> 01:39:24,200 time-travel device was created and who 2358 01:39:28,330 --> 01:39:25,490 knows we're not going to know until that 2359 01:39:29,710 --> 01:39:28,340 day or after because I think a lot of 2360 01:39:31,210 --> 01:39:29,720 people are going to be partying and 2361 01:39:32,830 --> 01:39:31,220 won't remember what happened that day 2362 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:32,840 yeah I'm gonna be 2363 01:39:38,290 --> 01:39:35,210 we're the Long Count calendar was Ashley 2364 01:39:41,890 --> 01:39:38,300 first devised in between the Olmec and 2365 01:39:43,899 --> 01:39:41,900 Mayan civilization Stella but one of the 2366 01:39:47,020 --> 01:39:43,909 things that I find very intriguing about 2367 01:39:50,740 --> 01:39:47,030 this whole idea is that whole concept of 2368 01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:50,750 of time travel only you can only go back 2369 01:39:58,060 --> 01:39:53,050 as far as the the actual technology 2370 01:40:01,600 --> 01:39:58,070 exists exactly so it would be 2371 01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:01,610 interesting to to do a story based on 2372 01:40:05,740 --> 01:40:03,290 that some sort of fictional short story 2373 01:40:08,350 --> 01:40:05,750 let's say and you can only go back as 2374 01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:08,360 far as you have another time machine in 2375 01:40:17,379 --> 01:40:12,050 the past to basically certify your 2376 01:40:20,010 --> 01:40:17,389 arrival right confusing isn't it just be 2377 01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:20,020 happy where we are the present moment 2378 01:40:25,780 --> 01:40:23,840 yeah yeah really did you ever think 2379 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:25,790 though Marie that you would like to be 2380 01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:28,210 able to go back and change something 2381 01:40:34,750 --> 01:40:32,090 before I wrote the book yeah but I gotta 2382 01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:34,760 tell you writing the book and and 2383 01:40:38,830 --> 01:40:37,010 thinking about the paradoxes and again 2384 01:40:41,620 --> 01:40:38,840 thinking about the whole butterfly 2385 01:40:43,660 --> 01:40:41,630 effect and and the fact that everything 2386 01:40:45,310 --> 01:40:43,670 I do everything anybody does it's like 2387 01:40:49,689 --> 01:40:45,320 throwing a pebble in the pond and those 2388 01:40:52,030 --> 01:40:49,699 ripples effect outward and influence the 2389 01:40:55,089 --> 01:40:52,040 ripples of other people I kind of 2390 01:40:57,939 --> 01:40:55,099 stopped thinking about that it made me 2391 01:41:00,250 --> 01:40:57,949 realize that I could go back and I could 2392 01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:00,260 change something that I think in my mind 2393 01:41:05,859 --> 01:41:03,650 now was negative and end up with a 2394 01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:05,869 present and a future that are far worse 2395 01:41:11,020 --> 01:41:08,210 than the one I have now I don't want to 2396 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:11,030 do that so really the more that I wrote 2397 01:41:16,629 --> 01:41:13,010 the book and researched and Larry and I 2398 01:41:18,550 --> 01:41:16,639 talked about it to the less inclined I 2399 01:41:20,890 --> 01:41:18,560 would be to attempt to go back and 2400 01:41:22,629 --> 01:41:20,900 change anything I would I always say oh 2401 01:41:24,879 --> 01:41:22,639 I'd love to go back to when my son was 2402 01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:24,889 really small and you know do that all 2403 01:41:28,839 --> 01:41:27,650 over again cuz it goes by so fast but 2404 01:41:30,609 --> 01:41:28,849 you have to ask yourself another 2405 01:41:32,229 --> 01:41:30,619 question are you saying you want to go 2406 01:41:35,260 --> 01:41:32,239 back with the awareness that you have 2407 01:41:36,820 --> 01:41:35,270 now or do you want to just go back with 2408 01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:36,830 the awareness that you had then which 2409 01:41:40,570 --> 01:41:38,570 would mean you get to relive all the bad 2410 01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:40,580 stuff as well as the good or do you want 2411 01:41:44,919 --> 01:41:43,610 to observe now this is an interesting 2412 01:41:46,689 --> 01:41:44,929 question I guess we haven't brought up 2413 01:41:49,719 --> 01:41:46,699 yet and I'll do 2414 01:41:52,089 --> 01:41:49,729 just for the sake of argument okay so if 2415 01:41:54,509 --> 01:41:52,099 you go back in time to where you 2416 01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:54,519 previously existed in that time line 2417 01:41:58,899 --> 01:41:57,050 would you replace yourself would you 2418 01:42:00,969 --> 01:41:58,909 meet yourself would you meet yourself 2419 01:42:03,669 --> 01:42:00,979 and find out the entire universe could 2420 01:42:06,370 --> 01:42:03,679 blow up what happens if you already 2421 01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:06,380 exist in that time line examples to your 2422 01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:08,449 past self I was thinking maybe what 2423 01:42:14,049 --> 01:42:12,650 would happen is that your mind which is 2424 01:42:16,810 --> 01:42:14,059 a terrible thing to waste as they tell 2425 01:42:19,509 --> 01:42:16,820 me your mind and your experiences would 2426 01:42:22,899 --> 01:42:19,519 replace the mine and the experiences of 2427 01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:22,909 yourself in the earlier timeframe yeah 2428 01:42:28,180 --> 01:42:25,610 that's an interesting way to look at it 2429 01:42:30,910 --> 01:42:28,190 unless you are literally turning back 2430 01:42:34,330 --> 01:42:30,920 the clock like the way you would rewind 2431 01:42:36,910 --> 01:42:34,340 a tape remember those videotapes rewind 2432 01:42:39,370 --> 01:42:36,920 something and just go back to the 2433 01:42:41,350 --> 01:42:39,380 beginning then press play then you would 2434 01:42:43,449 --> 01:42:41,360 just be reliving sort of on an observer 2435 01:42:44,649 --> 01:42:43,459 level what happened but if you're 2436 01:42:46,540 --> 01:42:44,659 talking about like you said if you're 2437 01:42:48,819 --> 01:42:46,550 literally physically going back then 2438 01:42:51,399 --> 01:42:48,829 yeah you're gonna meet yourself as a kid 2439 01:42:53,259 --> 01:42:51,409 I think there was a movie about that 2440 01:42:55,330 --> 01:42:53,269 where a guy goes back and meets himself 2441 01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:55,340 when he was a child and but he's not 2442 01:42:59,589 --> 01:42:57,170 able to change anything I can't remember 2443 01:43:01,390 --> 01:42:59,599 what the movie was it's in the reboot of 2444 01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:01,400 Star Trek they create an alternate 2445 01:43:05,410 --> 01:43:03,530 timeline and Spock travels back to the 2446 01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:05,420 alternate timeline and he meets his 2447 01:43:11,259 --> 01:43:08,570 younger self yeah that would really 2448 01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:11,269 screw things up I mean I guess the way 2449 01:43:16,029 --> 01:43:13,610 they dealt with it is that an alternate 2450 01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:16,039 timeline has been created right right so 2451 01:43:20,919 --> 01:43:18,650 the reality in which Spock prime is he's 2452 01:43:24,370 --> 01:43:20,929 identified in the credits where Leonard 2453 01:43:25,859 --> 01:43:24,380 Nimoy is presented since it is an 2454 01:43:28,750 --> 01:43:25,869 alternate timeline 2455 01:43:30,430 --> 01:43:28,760 therefore he can go back there and not 2456 01:43:32,739 --> 01:43:30,440 change anything that was like to be 2457 01:43:36,219 --> 01:43:32,749 because it's already changed just right 2458 01:43:37,959 --> 01:43:36,229 by his own timeline stays the same but 2459 01:43:39,549 --> 01:43:37,969 he's going back in an alternate and 2460 01:43:41,709 --> 01:43:39,559 again there's that idea that the 2461 01:43:44,589 --> 01:43:41,719 multiverse alternate dimensions 2462 01:43:47,199 --> 01:43:44,599 alternate universes again it's like the 2463 01:43:48,969 --> 01:43:47,209 catch-all excuse for being able to do 2464 01:43:50,890 --> 01:43:48,979 all the things that you wouldn't be able 2465 01:43:52,810 --> 01:43:50,900 to do in your own timeline in your own 2466 01:43:55,509 --> 01:43:52,820 universe that's why it's such a 2467 01:43:57,669 --> 01:43:55,519 wonderful device in fiction because you 2468 01:43:59,589 --> 01:43:57,679 can get away with it and we have to 2469 01:44:00,640 --> 01:43:59,599 think here when we look at things like 2470 01:44:03,670 --> 01:44:00,650 the UFO mist 2471 01:44:06,130 --> 01:44:03,680 we talk about time portals or portals 2472 01:44:08,530 --> 01:44:06,140 from one reality to another the common 2473 01:44:13,480 --> 01:44:08,540 belief about UFOs is that their 2474 01:44:15,070 --> 01:44:13,490 spaceships right this point I'm coming 2475 01:44:17,050 --> 01:44:15,080 from this point in time but from 2476 01:44:18,730 --> 01:44:17,060 elsewhere they travel across the stars 2477 01:44:20,590 --> 01:44:18,740 whether it's wormholes or whether they 2478 01:44:22,780 --> 01:44:20,600 took a hundred years to get here a 2479 01:44:25,230 --> 01:44:22,790 thousand years they're coming from 2480 01:44:28,090 --> 01:44:25,240 someplace else to here but the other 2481 01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:28,100 position is of course going from portal 2482 01:44:33,070 --> 01:44:31,010 to portal where they are in reality a 2483 01:44:36,010 --> 01:44:33,080 and they see what's going on in reality 2484 01:44:38,410 --> 01:44:36,020 B and they transport themselves to 2485 01:44:41,770 --> 01:44:38,420 reality B which may be why UFOs 2486 01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:41,780 sometimes appear to wink in and week out 2487 01:44:48,100 --> 01:44:45,410 right there in interdimensional aspects 2488 01:44:50,380 --> 01:44:48,110 too many sightings sure sure 2489 01:44:51,850 --> 01:44:50,390 and they and very well could be from the 2490 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:51,860 future especially if they're traveling 2491 01:44:57,210 --> 01:44:53,690 through the methods that we're talking 2492 01:45:00,430 --> 01:44:57,220 about using someday for time travel 2493 01:45:01,780 --> 01:45:00,440 wormholes and and portals and and if 2494 01:45:04,780 --> 01:45:01,790 we're talking about portals the other 2495 01:45:06,670 --> 01:45:04,790 reality can be far in advance of ours it 2496 01:45:07,870 --> 01:45:06,680 doesn't mean it exists on a parallel 2497 01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:07,880 timeframe right 2498 01:45:13,810 --> 01:45:09,410 they're just sort of popping into our 2499 01:45:15,340 --> 01:45:13,820 timeline to take a look stop for a beer 2500 01:45:17,890 --> 01:45:15,350 and they go back into their timeline 2501 01:45:19,420 --> 01:45:17,900 yeah absolutely they want classic coke 2502 01:45:21,490 --> 01:45:19,430 not the new coke that's how it goes 2503 01:45:28,069 --> 01:45:21,500 Marie Jones joining gene and Chris 2504 01:45:34,859 --> 01:45:31,649 the GC and radio network providing the 2505 01:45:39,540 --> 01:45:34,869 world with hard-hitting talk radio G C 2506 01:45:41,250 --> 01:45:39,550 and great talk radio starts here hi this 2507 01:45:43,679 --> 01:45:41,260 is Ted Anderson if you'd like to listen 2508 01:45:44,250 --> 01:45:43,689 to GCN programs on the goal I have great 2509 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01:46:14,849 --> 01:46:13,300 bed strips and fibers to protect from 2524 01:46:16,619 --> 01:46:14,859 counterfeit and carding to a private 2525 01:46:18,419 --> 01:46:16,629 bank having a led back at interest 2526 01:46:20,250 --> 01:46:18,429 forcing taxes to service debt this 2527 01:46:21,719 --> 01:46:20,260 capitalism or was Jefferson correct when 2528 01:46:23,339 --> 01:46:21,729 stating a central bank issuing the 2529 01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:23,349 public currency is a greater menace to 2530 01:46:25,829 --> 01:46:24,489 the liberties of the people than a 2531 01:46:27,270 --> 01:46:25,839 standing army today understand I'm 2532 01:46:29,099 --> 01:46:27,280 placing a free silver dollar in a book 2533 01:46:32,549 --> 01:46:29,109 that explains our monetary system call 2534 01:46:35,759 --> 01:46:32,559 for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time 2535 01:46:41,129 --> 01:46:35,769 to understand the system call 866 to 237 2536 01:46:43,169 --> 01:46:41,139 that's 800 686 to 237 my name is Bruno 2537 01:46:44,819 --> 01:46:43,179 I'm 52 years old I've tried different 2538 01:46:46,529 --> 01:46:44,829 protein powders over the years and 2539 01:46:47,729 --> 01:46:46,539 they've all tasted pretty bad I tried 2540 01:46:49,799 --> 01:46:47,739 one world way and found it to be 2541 01:46:51,659 --> 01:46:49,809 delicious after 10 weeks on one world 2542 01:46:53,250 --> 01:46:51,669 way my wife commented you have more 2543 01:46:55,319 --> 01:46:53,260 muscles and you're leaner than when you 2544 01:46:57,839 --> 01:46:55,329 were 20 years old my body has changed 2545 01:46:59,790 --> 01:46:57,849 dramatically I'm a cyclist normally I'll 2546 01:47:02,699 --> 01:46:59,800 ride two days on and take two days off 2547 01:47:04,589 --> 01:47:02,709 after being on one world way I wrote 10 2548 01:47:06,779 --> 01:47:04,599 days in a row and over 100 degree heat 2549 01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:06,789 and then I take another two servings of 2550 01:47:10,829 --> 01:47:08,530 one world away and then work out at the 2551 01:47:13,199 --> 01:47:10,839 gym for another hour and a half I just 2552 01:47:14,759 --> 01:47:13,209 couldn't believe these results my normal 2553 01:47:16,859 --> 01:47:14,769 muscle tightness and soreness after 2554 01:47:18,989 --> 01:47:16,869 working out are virtually gone don't 2555 01:47:21,089 --> 01:47:18,999 take my word for it one where away comes 2556 01:47:23,639 --> 01:47:21,099 in single servings just give it a try 2557 01:47:26,009 --> 01:47:23,649 for a health and taste sensation you'll 2558 01:47:28,020 --> 01:47:26,019 love call eight eight eight nine eight 2559 01:47:29,579 --> 01:47:28,030 eight three three two five that's eight 2560 01:47:31,649 --> 01:47:29,589 eight eight nine eight eight three three 2561 01:47:33,359 --> 01:47:31,659 two five that's eight eight eight nine 2562 01:47:34,410 --> 01:47:33,369 eight eight three three two five or 2563 01:47:38,580 --> 01:47:34,420 visit 2564 01:47:40,270 --> 01:47:38,590 on world wacom that's one world wh ey 2565 01:47:46,380 --> 01:47:40,280 calm 2566 01:47:54,420 --> 01:47:50,080 welcome back to the para cast the gold 2567 01:48:02,350 --> 01:47:54,430 standard of paranormal radio and now 2568 01:48:05,260 --> 01:48:02,360 here's Jane Steinberg yes do are 2569 01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:05,270 interdimensional travelers covet some of 2570 01:48:11,380 --> 01:48:07,370 the things we have here like the New 2571 01:48:12,940 --> 01:48:11,390 Coke Pro Classic Diet Coke I've got one 2572 01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:12,950 for you this is one I've been using for 2573 01:48:17,410 --> 01:48:16,010 20 years when I do presentations 2574 01:48:19,750 --> 01:48:17,420 addressing the cattle mutilation 2575 01:48:22,090 --> 01:48:19,760 phenomenon of course a popular theory 2576 01:48:24,660 --> 01:48:22,100 out there you know promoted by Linda 2577 01:48:26,500 --> 01:48:24,670 Howe and others are that these are 2578 01:48:29,230 --> 01:48:26,510 extraterrestrials coming in gathering 2579 01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:29,240 genetic material but I've always thought 2580 01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:32,330 that the idea of cattle being at some 2581 01:48:36,340 --> 01:48:34,610 point in the future banned as a protein 2582 01:48:39,130 --> 01:48:36,350 source because there's such detrimental 2583 01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:39,140 life-forms on the planet I could run 2584 01:48:43,660 --> 01:48:40,610 through the litany of all the things 2585 01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:43,670 that cattle are responsible for largest 2586 01:48:47,740 --> 01:48:45,650 source of fresh water pollution and the 2587 01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:47,750 creation of deserts the reason why we're 2588 01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:49,130 cutting down all the rainforests is to 2589 01:48:53,620 --> 01:48:51,410 make room for more cattle and Thrax we 2590 01:48:56,170 --> 01:48:53,630 just had an outbreak of anthrax in 2591 01:48:58,090 --> 01:48:56,180 Colorado but one of the things that I've 2592 01:49:00,130 --> 01:48:58,100 always thought could be intriguing is if 2593 01:49:03,430 --> 01:49:00,140 cattle are banned as a food source 2594 01:49:05,110 --> 01:49:03,440 perhaps cattle mutilators are chefs from 2595 01:49:09,340 --> 01:49:05,120 the future coming back to harvest 2596 01:49:11,440 --> 01:49:09,350 illegal yeah they're poaching cattle 2597 01:49:14,970 --> 01:49:11,450 from the past you know to create these 2598 01:49:18,130 --> 01:49:14,980 million five million dollar a plate 2599 01:49:20,740 --> 01:49:18,140 dishes of Catalina tsa's and lips or 2600 01:49:23,860 --> 01:49:20,750 something I saw the one in the sand go 2601 01:49:32,230 --> 01:49:23,870 have dinner for a mere hundred million 2602 01:49:34,990 --> 01:49:32,240 dollars you can have all that right but 2603 01:49:37,780 --> 01:49:35,000 you know I mean when I was originally in 2604 01:49:39,550 --> 01:49:37,790 MUFON many moons ago nobody well there 2605 01:49:41,670 --> 01:49:39,560 was discussion about the 2606 01:49:44,020 --> 01:49:41,680 interdimentional and and even the 2607 01:49:46,570 --> 01:49:44,030 time-traveling aspects but it was still 2608 01:49:48,100 --> 01:49:46,580 really more of a nuts-and-bolts kind of 2609 01:49:51,550 --> 01:49:48,110 thing where we thought they're coming 2610 01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:51,560 from some point in our universe and you 2611 01:49:55,240 --> 01:49:52,970 know they've got a fuel source that 2612 01:49:56,609 --> 01:49:55,250 enables them to get across vast expanses 2613 01:49:59,179 --> 01:49:56,619 of space 2614 01:50:01,020 --> 01:49:59,189 then you've started to introduce the 2615 01:50:02,819 --> 01:50:01,030 interdimensional aspects because a lot 2616 01:50:05,399 --> 01:50:02,829 of sightings like you said they just had 2617 01:50:06,989 --> 01:50:05,409 the appearance of projections as if they 2618 01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:06,999 were images being projected from 2619 01:50:12,119 --> 01:50:08,800 somewhere else and they would sort of 2620 01:50:16,379 --> 01:50:12,129 zap in and then zap out of your of your 2621 01:50:18,239 --> 01:50:16,389 of your sight and and now time travel 2622 01:50:21,689 --> 01:50:18,249 aspects especially with these 2623 01:50:24,149 --> 01:50:21,699 revelations about Roswell and yes I 2624 01:50:25,979 --> 01:50:24,159 still wonder why Roswell would have 2625 01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:25,989 anything to do with time travel I mean 2626 01:50:31,770 --> 01:50:28,090 it could it could be interdimensional 2627 01:50:34,319 --> 01:50:31,780 visitors but why not just et having an 2628 01:50:36,449 --> 01:50:34,329 accident it could be absolutely I mean I 2629 01:50:38,009 --> 01:50:36,459 still don't know what I don't think 2630 01:50:39,600 --> 01:50:38,019 anybody still knows what happened there 2631 01:50:40,979 --> 01:50:39,610 it's kind of like the jf it's like what 2632 01:50:44,009 --> 01:50:40,989 are those conspiracies that's never 2633 01:50:47,609 --> 01:50:44,019 gonna go away I don't think the entire 2634 01:50:48,869 --> 01:50:47,619 truth will ever surface and if it does 2635 01:50:50,459 --> 01:50:48,879 then you're always still gonna have 2636 01:50:51,839 --> 01:50:50,469 people that will say no that's I don't 2637 01:50:54,419 --> 01:50:51,849 believe that's what happened 2638 01:50:57,270 --> 01:50:54,429 you're naysayers but yeah very well 2639 01:50:58,560 --> 01:50:57,280 could have just been a crash from our 2640 01:51:00,389 --> 01:50:58,570 corners of the universe 2641 01:51:02,219 --> 01:51:00,399 but it's just interesting you know to 2642 01:51:04,379 --> 01:51:02,229 have this one particular gentleman he 2643 01:51:07,500 --> 01:51:04,389 was a u.s. Navy commander his name was 2644 01:51:09,569 --> 01:51:07,510 George Hoover he's the one who claimed 2645 01:51:11,759 --> 01:51:09,579 he told his son and another UFO 2646 01:51:14,790 --> 01:51:11,769 researcher William burns that in 2647 01:51:17,279 --> 01:51:14,800 interviews that he he had an inside 2648 01:51:19,319 --> 01:51:17,289 scoop and was able to view the wreckage 2649 01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:19,329 and view the entities and he was 2650 01:51:23,629 --> 01:51:21,760 convinced that they were time travelers 2651 01:51:26,569 --> 01:51:23,639 and that they may have even been us 2652 01:51:29,609 --> 01:51:26,579 coming from the future coming back to 2653 01:51:31,979 --> 01:51:29,619 communicate with ourselves so you just 2654 01:51:33,869 --> 01:51:31,989 don't know I mean again maybe they were 2655 01:51:36,659 --> 01:51:33,879 coming back to harvest some cattle and 2656 01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:36,669 they they they made a wrong turn during 2657 01:51:40,709 --> 01:51:38,530 a lightning storm or something exactly 2658 01:51:42,419 --> 01:51:40,719 yeah they just you know but then I 2659 01:51:43,649 --> 01:51:42,429 remember somebody saying well if they 2660 01:51:45,540 --> 01:51:43,659 were time travelers from the future 2661 01:51:47,759 --> 01:51:45,550 wouldn't they have had better technology 2662 01:51:50,429 --> 01:51:47,769 and not crashed at all that was a really 2663 01:51:52,889 --> 01:51:50,439 good point well the other thing to 2664 01:51:55,949 --> 01:51:52,899 consider here is that sometimes we 2665 01:51:58,649 --> 01:51:55,959 assume or want to assume that this 2666 01:52:01,560 --> 01:51:58,659 technology is way in advance of ours but 2667 01:52:03,779 --> 01:52:01,570 maybe it's not that so far and maybe 2668 01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:03,789 it's a political thing where the 2669 01:52:08,639 --> 01:52:05,530 spaceship was built by the lowest bidder 2670 01:52:10,580 --> 01:52:08,649 who gave the right bribes to the agency 2671 01:52:12,670 --> 01:52:10,590 that built this patient I mean we have 2672 01:52:15,350 --> 01:52:12,680 to assume here there's no reason not to 2673 01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:15,360 that on other planets or in other 2674 01:52:19,550 --> 01:52:17,130 dimensions and other realities and other 2675 01:52:21,980 --> 01:52:19,560 timeframes they might have the same 2676 01:52:24,140 --> 01:52:21,990 problems we have I'm sure they have more 2677 01:52:27,440 --> 01:52:24,150 advanced levels of the same problems 2678 01:52:29,060 --> 01:52:27,450 that we have absolutely absolutely and 2679 01:52:31,550 --> 01:52:29,070 you're right I mean if you think about 2680 01:52:33,500 --> 01:52:31,560 how technology and progress has 2681 01:52:36,260 --> 01:52:33,510 increased oh gosh 2682 01:52:37,640 --> 01:52:36,270 since what the last 50 years we could 2683 01:52:40,700 --> 01:52:37,650 say that some of these quote-unquote 2684 01:52:43,070 --> 01:52:40,710 advanced civilizations are only 50 years 2685 01:52:45,320 --> 01:52:43,080 ahead of us because look at the you know 2686 01:52:47,270 --> 01:52:45,330 the exponential increase of technology 2687 01:52:50,570 --> 01:52:47,280 between today and 50 years from now I 2688 01:52:52,730 --> 01:52:50,580 can't even envision well in the middle 2689 01:52:56,630 --> 01:52:52,740 of the 21st century of course they 2690 01:52:58,970 --> 01:52:56,640 invented warp drive right the Star Trek 2691 01:53:01,790 --> 01:52:58,980 legend yep absolutely 2692 01:53:03,170 --> 01:53:01,800 it's coming teleportation what else beam 2693 01:53:04,670 --> 01:53:03,180 me up Scotty 2694 01:53:06,530 --> 01:53:04,680 I don't like speaking of teleportation 2695 01:53:08,570 --> 01:53:06,540 there have been experiments with it 2696 01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:08,580 absolutely on the quantum level we have 2697 01:53:13,670 --> 01:53:11,130 teleported particles like I said before 2698 01:53:16,510 --> 01:53:13,680 it always seems to happen on the quantum 2699 01:53:19,100 --> 01:53:16,520 level first and it's that is a huge 2700 01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:19,110 breakthrough because it does show that 2701 01:53:24,440 --> 01:53:22,170 theoretically it's possible with larger 2702 01:53:26,570 --> 01:53:24,450 objects something bigger than a particle 2703 01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:26,580 but absolutely there's been a number of 2704 01:53:32,210 --> 01:53:29,250 teleportation experiments done but again 2705 01:53:35,780 --> 01:53:32,220 how long will it be before we can beam 2706 01:53:37,610 --> 01:53:35,790 up a dog or a person or you know a rover 2707 01:53:39,740 --> 01:53:37,620 onto Mars instead of going through 2708 01:53:41,810 --> 01:53:39,750 everything that we did with curiosity 2709 01:53:44,540 --> 01:53:41,820 we'll just beam that puppy up in ten 2710 01:53:46,430 --> 01:53:44,550 seconds and also you have to contains 2711 01:53:49,130 --> 01:53:46,440 genetic signature because whatever 2712 01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:49,140 nother creature gets in the B wing like 2713 01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:51,570 the movie the fly oh remember the 2714 01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:53,730 original fly not the Jeff Goldblum 2715 01:53:57,140 --> 01:53:55,050 version but the agent was pretty 2716 01:53:58,910 --> 01:53:57,150 straightforward it is the guy had the 2717 01:54:01,280 --> 01:53:58,920 head of a fly and the body of a human 2718 01:54:06,530 --> 01:54:01,290 and a little fly had the body of a fly 2719 01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:06,540 and the head of a human I remember 2720 01:54:09,410 --> 01:54:08,130 seeing that as a kid and just thinking 2721 01:54:12,260 --> 01:54:09,420 this is sick 2722 01:54:14,500 --> 01:54:12,270 yes but you have to think here if you 2723 01:54:16,610 --> 01:54:14,510 invent some kind of matter 2724 01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:16,620 transportation device it transports 2725 01:54:23,300 --> 01:54:19,170 matter from here to there you have to 2726 01:54:24,500 --> 01:54:23,310 have a fail-safe mechanism that creates 2727 01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:24,510 a genetic 2728 01:54:30,109 --> 01:54:27,210 blueprint of this entity being object 2729 01:54:32,209 --> 01:54:30,119 whatever and retains that blueprint in 2730 01:54:34,459 --> 01:54:32,219 transporting you to the other location 2731 01:54:37,430 --> 01:54:34,469 right it is scrambling you into 2732 01:54:39,529 --> 01:54:37,440 molecules and atoms and quantum elements 2733 01:54:41,359 --> 01:54:39,539 and whatever and reassembling you at the 2734 01:54:44,479 --> 01:54:41,369 other end how does this happen 2735 01:54:51,020 --> 01:54:44,489 accurately or is that the result of many 2736 01:54:53,169 --> 01:54:51,030 years of failed experiments not only 2737 01:54:55,609 --> 01:54:53,179 that but how do you keep any outside 2738 01:54:58,399 --> 01:54:55,619 particulate matter from interfering with 2739 01:55:00,529 --> 01:54:58,409 that beam of your genetic data 2740 01:55:02,660 --> 01:55:00,539 well if of course you get an accurate 2741 01:55:04,250 --> 01:55:02,670 picture of the genetic data at the 2742 01:55:07,069 --> 01:55:04,260 source it doesn't matter because it's 2743 01:55:10,009 --> 01:55:07,079 only beaming that source it creates the 2744 01:55:12,109 --> 01:55:10,019 image of that source from the target 2745 01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:12,119 location and in the location where you 2746 01:55:16,970 --> 01:55:14,210 are beamed whether there's another 2747 01:55:19,459 --> 01:55:16,980 transportation or transmission device of 2748 01:55:21,830 --> 01:55:19,469 receptive device there or you just end 2749 01:55:23,779 --> 01:55:21,840 up in the middle of a field it would 2750 01:55:25,759 --> 01:55:23,789 have some methodology of reassembling 2751 01:55:27,830 --> 01:55:25,769 you in accordance with this genetic 2752 01:55:30,259 --> 01:55:27,840 picture so therefore it doesn't matter 2753 01:55:32,779 --> 01:55:30,269 if there's contamination because worse 2754 01:55:35,779 --> 01:55:32,789 then two creatures will be transported 2755 01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:35,789 and I think that's why they do all this 2756 01:55:41,509 --> 01:55:38,610 stuff on the quantum level first before 2757 01:55:43,970 --> 01:55:41,519 they venture to try it on a larger scale 2758 01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:43,980 and have something go wrong well in the 2759 01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:46,530 case of the UFO mystery do we have 2760 01:55:50,810 --> 01:55:49,170 beings who seem to be beamed from 2761 01:55:53,569 --> 01:55:50,820 elsewhere there are people that claim 2762 01:55:55,370 --> 01:55:53,579 that the entities that are involved in 2763 01:55:57,500 --> 01:55:55,380 abductions or even the contactee 2764 01:56:00,379 --> 01:55:57,510 movement that a lot of these entities 2765 01:56:04,129 --> 01:56:00,389 say that they're from the future for 2766 01:56:06,439 --> 01:56:04,139 what that's worth why believe them if an 2767 01:56:07,970 --> 01:56:06,449 entity comes here and says ok people of 2768 01:56:09,589 --> 01:56:07,980 Earth we're going to protect you from 2769 01:56:12,049 --> 01:56:09,599 yourselves it doesn't matter what they 2770 01:56:13,790 --> 01:56:12,059 say why do people believe anything they 2771 01:56:15,740 --> 01:56:13,800 say because we don't know who these 2772 01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:15,750 beings are we don't know if we're even 2773 01:56:21,709 --> 01:56:18,000 seeing the beings as they are and we 2774 01:56:24,109 --> 01:56:21,719 certainly don't know if their morals if 2775 01:56:26,330 --> 01:56:24,119 their motivations are accurately 2776 01:56:29,149 --> 01:56:26,340 represented right I like you know love 2777 01:56:31,609 --> 01:56:29,159 the TV series B which I thought did a 2778 01:56:33,770 --> 01:56:31,619 real great can't be portrayal of that 2779 01:56:36,500 --> 01:56:33,780 very thing the idea that you have these 2780 01:56:37,310 --> 01:56:36,510 beautiful human aliens that come here 2781 01:56:39,260 --> 01:56:37,320 the visitor 2782 01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:39,270 and they come in peace and they're of 2783 01:56:43,340 --> 01:56:41,730 peace and they're gorgeous creatures and 2784 01:56:45,650 --> 01:56:43,350 yet underneath their skin they're 2785 01:56:47,390 --> 01:56:45,660 lizards they're reptilians and they want 2786 01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:47,400 to kill all the humans and but what 2787 01:56:51,680 --> 01:56:49,290 really bothers me is the idea that 2788 01:56:54,890 --> 01:56:51,690 anything or anybody can come from the 2789 01:56:57,170 --> 01:56:54,900 future and it's want to save us what a 2790 01:57:00,260 --> 01:56:57,180 cop-out I mean why are we even bothering 2791 01:57:01,790 --> 01:57:00,270 to live our lives in the present if 2792 01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:01,800 somebody's going to come from the future 2793 01:57:06,020 --> 01:57:04,170 whether they're alien or human and save 2794 01:57:08,510 --> 01:57:06,030 our ourselves but we don't know that 2795 01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:08,520 yeah you know that maybe some 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Peric ask.com 2918 02:02:04,660 --> 02:02:02,870 with Gene and Christian the power castes 2919 02:02:06,610 --> 02:02:04,670 this book is from the future from Murray 2920 02:02:07,959 --> 02:02:06,620 Jones and Larry Flaxman Murray is here 2921 02:02:10,300 --> 02:02:07,969 and we're talking about the Davi Earth 2922 02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:10,310 Stood Still the original version 1951 2923 02:02:16,780 --> 02:02:13,010 Michael Rennie British actor unknown 2924 02:02:19,840 --> 02:02:16,790 here plays Klaatu being from another 2925 02:02:23,380 --> 02:02:19,850 planet or star system comes here to warn 2926 02:02:25,000 --> 02:02:23,390 earth to give up our warlike ways and if 2927 02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:25,010 not they'll take matters into their own 2928 02:02:31,060 --> 02:02:28,010 hands and he has this robotic creature 2929 02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:31,070 called Gort with absolute power over 2930 02:02:33,700 --> 02:02:31,730 them 2931 02:02:37,479 --> 02:02:33,710 they've given this race of robots 2932 02:02:40,630 --> 02:02:37,489 absolute power to combat crime to combat 2933 02:02:44,070 --> 02:02:40,640 evil and if earth is evil they'll take 2934 02:02:47,470 --> 02:02:44,080 care of us but that legend the legend of 2935 02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:47,480 ET coming here wearing silvery uniforms 2936 02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:50,570 with right blonde hair although Michael 2937 02:02:55,899 --> 02:02:52,610 Rennie had dark hair coming here to 2938 02:02:59,110 --> 02:02:55,909 earth warning us of the consequences of 2939 02:03:00,790 --> 02:02:59,120 nuclear testing our tribal warfare etc 2940 02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:00,800 that's part of the legend that's what 2941 02:03:05,380 --> 02:03:02,690 the Day the Earth Stood Still was about 2942 02:03:08,200 --> 02:03:05,390 they had a remake yeah with the Keanu 2943 02:03:10,510 --> 02:03:08,210 Reeves oh yeah but why they made this 2944 02:03:13,660 --> 02:03:10,520 movie I don't understand because they 2945 02:03:16,600 --> 02:03:13,670 basically ripped apart the core simple 2946 02:03:23,470 --> 02:03:16,610 story and they made it into a jumbled 2947 02:03:26,470 --> 02:03:23,480 mess movies and even some of the newer 2948 02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:26,480 ones that have a real message or real 2949 02:03:30,280 --> 02:03:28,610 theme they're not just about oh one day 2950 02:03:30,930 --> 02:03:30,290 look we're gonna have laser guns that do 2951 02:03:33,970 --> 02:03:30,940 this 2952 02:03:36,340 --> 02:03:33,980 my son and I watch district 9 a while 2953 02:03:38,830 --> 02:03:36,350 back and I just I love the idea that you 2954 02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:38,840 can combine science fiction and 2955 02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:42,650 futuristic whatnot with with a theme in 2956 02:03:47,979 --> 02:03:45,050 district 9 the aliens are basically 2957 02:03:50,350 --> 02:03:47,989 segregated from us it's like apartheid 2958 02:03:52,510 --> 02:03:50,360 commentary it was a really good movie 2959 02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:52,520 but again I hate the idea and this is 2960 02:03:58,390 --> 02:03:55,730 just me personally that people are so 2961 02:04:00,879 --> 02:03:58,400 willing to look for because I know if 2962 02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:00,889 they the whole alien thing and either 2963 02:04:04,479 --> 02:04:02,570 time travel for some extent because 2964 02:04:06,759 --> 02:04:04,489 somebody could come back from the future 2965 02:04:07,899 --> 02:04:06,769 and give us the cures to this amount the 2966 02:04:10,270 --> 02:04:07,909 other thing and help solve all our 2967 02:04:13,179 --> 02:04:10,280 economic problems it's that sort of 2968 02:04:15,429 --> 02:04:13,189 savior mentality that somebody will come 2969 02:04:18,009 --> 02:04:15,439 back and save us you know whether it's 2970 02:04:19,509 --> 02:04:18,019 aliens and again like you said that 2971 02:04:21,699 --> 02:04:19,519 shows that there are people that are so 2972 02:04:23,709 --> 02:04:21,709 willing to turn their trust over to 2973 02:04:25,299 --> 02:04:23,719 anyone or anything somebody comes back 2974 02:04:27,189 --> 02:04:25,309 from the future and says I'm here to 2975 02:04:29,770 --> 02:04:27,199 save you and all of a sudden he's got 2976 02:04:32,169 --> 02:04:29,780 the biggest cult in town with zillions 2977 02:04:34,569 --> 02:04:32,179 of followers that just really bothers me 2978 02:04:36,549 --> 02:04:34,579 that people don't take a step back more 2979 02:04:38,919 --> 02:04:36,559 and think about maybe we need to do all 2980 02:04:40,629 --> 02:04:38,929 this for ourselves so you know the idea 2981 02:04:42,909 --> 02:04:40,639 of traveling into the future to get 2982 02:04:45,429 --> 02:04:42,919 knowledge and technology we may be 2983 02:04:47,259 --> 02:04:45,439 screwing up our own purpose well the 2984 02:04:49,540 --> 02:04:47,269 other thing I've mentioned this in my 2985 02:04:53,350 --> 02:04:49,550 editorial for our weekly newsletter I 2986 02:04:55,810 --> 02:04:53,360 assume that et is even good I assume 2987 02:04:57,389 --> 02:04:55,820 they are any different than we are look 2988 02:04:59,979 --> 02:04:57,399 at the science fiction shows that show 2989 02:05:02,529 --> 02:04:59,989 advanced technology look at Star Trek 2990 02:05:04,540 --> 02:05:02,539 and supposedly we got our acts together 2991 02:05:06,939 --> 02:05:04,550 but we still have the Klingons and the 2992 02:05:09,100 --> 02:05:06,949 Romulans and other hostile races look at 2993 02:05:11,620 --> 02:05:09,110 Babylon 5 we have different 2994 02:05:13,959 --> 02:05:11,630 civilizations fighting each other and 2995 02:05:16,109 --> 02:05:13,969 they basically are behaving the same as 2996 02:05:19,000 --> 02:05:16,119 we do why assume just because we have 2997 02:05:21,069 --> 02:05:19,010 intergalactic travel warp drive and all 2998 02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:21,079 this other stuff that we are any 2999 02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:23,090 different we just take our problems to 3000 02:05:26,979 --> 02:05:25,010 another star system take them to another 3001 02:05:28,959 --> 02:05:26,989 level 3002 02:05:32,290 --> 02:05:28,969 we just have better technology but the 3003 02:05:34,449 --> 02:05:32,300 same emotional immaturity and problems I 3004 02:05:37,870 --> 02:05:34,459 mean have we changed all that much with 3005 02:05:41,229 --> 02:05:37,880 our emotional maturity 2,000 years ago 3006 02:05:45,189 --> 02:05:41,239 to now right I think so no no you're 3007 02:05:48,159 --> 02:05:45,199 right yeah we're still hurting each 3008 02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:48,169 other and being intolerant and yeah 3009 02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:49,090 absolutely 3010 02:05:54,189 --> 02:05:51,530 just because an advanced civilization 3011 02:05:56,560 --> 02:05:54,199 has killer technology doesn't mean that 3012 02:05:58,779 --> 02:05:56,570 they're mentally or emotionally or 3013 02:06:01,929 --> 02:05:58,789 psychologically that much further along 3014 02:06:04,060 --> 02:06:01,939 we would hope we think just because they 3015 02:06:07,109 --> 02:06:04,070 have killer technology doesn't mean 3016 02:06:09,639 --> 02:06:07,119 they're also not killers they evolved 3017 02:06:11,620 --> 02:06:09,649 scientifically with knowledge technology 3018 02:06:14,529 --> 02:06:11,630 doesn't necessarily mean they've evolved 3019 02:06:17,379 --> 02:06:14,539 as beings the two 3020 02:06:20,439 --> 02:06:17,389 have to always go hand in hand you know 3021 02:06:23,259 --> 02:06:20,449 we might have first contact not with the 3022 02:06:26,439 --> 02:06:23,269 Vulcans who are a peaceful people but 3023 02:06:28,539 --> 02:06:26,449 with the Romulans yeah and I think also 3024 02:06:31,089 --> 02:06:28,549 you know with they could be a different 3025 02:06:33,339 --> 02:06:31,099 to us completely and not care at all I 3026 02:06:35,679 --> 02:06:33,349 could just be observing the way that we 3027 02:06:38,770 --> 02:06:35,689 drive through a town on the way to Vegas 3028 02:06:40,389 --> 02:06:38,780 and stop in for a soda and who you you 3029 02:06:42,039 --> 02:06:40,399 don't care you're not there to change 3030 02:06:43,569 --> 02:06:42,049 anything you're not there to hurt 3031 02:06:46,379 --> 02:06:43,579 anybody you're just passing on through 3032 02:06:50,289 --> 02:06:46,389 and yet we give such importance to 3033 02:06:51,579 --> 02:06:50,299 somebody sees a UFO disclosure is coming 3034 02:06:53,319 --> 02:06:51,589 they're gonna land and they're gonna 3035 02:06:55,959 --> 02:06:53,329 take care of our problem isn't this 3036 02:06:56,889 --> 02:06:55,969 wonderful they'll protect us it's so 3037 02:06:58,869 --> 02:06:56,899 exciting 3038 02:07:02,020 --> 02:06:58,879 we can't wait for et they have to be 3039 02:07:04,689 --> 02:07:02,030 warm and fuzzy I mean the last warm and 3040 02:07:06,669 --> 02:07:04,699 fuzzy et the warmest and fuzzy CT was et 3041 02:07:08,709 --> 02:07:06,679 the extra-terrestrial and we have to 3042 02:07:09,159 --> 02:07:08,719 think what about the people he came here 3043 02:07:12,489 --> 02:07:09,169 with 3044 02:07:15,189 --> 02:07:12,499 I mean imagine this your botanist and 3045 02:07:16,270 --> 02:07:15,199 you come to earth you miss the signal 3046 02:07:18,159 --> 02:07:16,280 that you have to come back to the 3047 02:07:21,250 --> 02:07:18,169 spaceship so they take off without you 3048 02:07:23,409 --> 02:07:21,260 yeah and the only way they know that 3049 02:07:25,779 --> 02:07:23,419 you've gone is because you send them a 3050 02:07:28,299 --> 02:07:25,789 radio signal don't they take like a roll 3051 02:07:30,849 --> 02:07:28,309 call or something to make sure that this 3052 02:07:32,289 --> 02:07:30,859 et is aboard the ship and if they say 3053 02:07:34,419 --> 02:07:32,299 you know what he's not aboard the ship 3054 02:07:35,919 --> 02:07:34,429 we gotta go back and recover him he 3055 02:07:37,419 --> 02:07:35,929 might be in danger those primitive 3056 02:07:37,809 --> 02:07:37,429 Earthlings they might capture or kill 3057 02:07:39,939 --> 02:07:37,819 him 3058 02:07:41,739 --> 02:07:39,949 they might put them on reality TV what's 3059 02:07:42,279 --> 02:07:41,749 gonna happen oh you'd have to do is 3060 02:07:44,379 --> 02:07:42,289 karate 3061 02:07:47,589 --> 02:07:44,389 et in the neck and you'd break his neck 3062 02:07:52,179 --> 02:07:47,599 like like a twig the terrestrial karate 3063 02:07:54,489 --> 02:07:52,189 kid that's the remake they didn't notice 3064 02:07:56,139 --> 02:07:54,499 that there was one less big clumsy 3065 02:07:58,779 --> 02:07:56,149 creature on board the ship than when 3066 02:07:59,919 --> 02:07:58,789 they got there yeah that's true I never 3067 02:08:02,289 --> 02:07:59,929 thought of it that way and I think 3068 02:08:04,029 --> 02:08:02,299 that's a huge gaping hole that Steven 3069 02:08:06,099 --> 02:08:04,039 Spielberg needs to fill in the in a 3070 02:08:07,539 --> 02:08:06,109 sequel there will be no sequel it's 30 3071 02:08:09,489 --> 02:08:07,549 years ago we have you teens 3072 02:08:12,369 --> 02:08:09,499 well they'll finally come back for him 3073 02:08:14,559 --> 02:08:12,379 and he'll just be so angry that's right 3074 02:08:15,069 --> 02:08:14,569 he came back from at the end but here's 3075 02:08:17,679 --> 02:08:15,079 the thing 3076 02:08:19,659 --> 02:08:17,689 I thought of et as a child this is Space 3077 02:08:21,879 --> 02:08:19,669 Camp right and they have a set of rules 3078 02:08:24,039 --> 02:08:21,889 and the camp counselors say look here's 3079 02:08:26,469 --> 02:08:24,049 the deal you're gonna come back within 3080 02:08:28,129 --> 02:08:26,479 whatever timeframe you'll take your soil 3081 02:08:29,870 --> 02:08:28,139 samples you'll come back 3082 02:08:31,850 --> 02:08:29,880 if you don't come back we're gonna leave 3083 02:08:32,629 --> 02:08:31,860 you too bad you're gonna have to fend 3084 02:08:35,629 --> 02:08:32,639 for yourself 3085 02:08:37,850 --> 02:08:35,639 that's a life's lesson so eventually of 3086 02:08:40,189 --> 02:08:37,860 course et figures the way to contact 3087 02:08:41,419 --> 02:08:40,199 them to say come back and help me maybe 3088 02:08:43,700 --> 02:08:41,429 in the end they would have come back 3089 02:08:45,649 --> 02:08:43,710 anyway but this is part of the learning 3090 02:08:47,720 --> 02:08:45,659 experience that you're going to be an 3091 02:08:49,669 --> 02:08:47,730 explorer on another planet possibly 3092 02:08:51,229 --> 02:08:49,679 hostile and you have to learn to fend 3093 02:08:55,930 --> 02:08:51,239 for yourself so if you don't get back to 3094 02:09:01,280 --> 02:08:58,609 there was another ship coming like bus 3095 02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:01,290 schedules different buses in here 20 3096 02:09:06,229 --> 02:09:02,730 minutes catch the next one 3097 02:09:07,340 --> 02:09:06,239 we're going see you and so when et sends 3098 02:09:08,479 --> 02:09:07,350 out the signal and when they never 3099 02:09:11,810 --> 02:09:08,489 establish in the movie by the way 3100 02:09:13,879 --> 02:09:11,820 weather et is male or female both or 3101 02:09:15,830 --> 02:09:13,889 neither and I always suggested you know 3102 02:09:17,540 --> 02:09:15,840 what let's call him male because that's 3103 02:09:20,720 --> 02:09:17,550 the implication in the movie this is a 3104 02:09:22,280 --> 02:09:20,730 heat but as you say he sends out the 3105 02:09:24,560 --> 02:09:22,290 signal but they don't respond 3106 02:09:27,500 --> 02:09:24,570 immediately they do respond eventually 3107 02:09:29,180 --> 02:09:27,510 but maybe they either waited for the 3108 02:09:31,129 --> 02:09:29,190 signal or would have come back anyway 3109 02:09:33,560 --> 02:09:31,139 because of their time schedule right 3110 02:09:35,899 --> 02:09:33,570 maybe they needed to do something really 3111 02:09:38,359 --> 02:09:35,909 urgent Lee and just said he just 3112 02:09:41,600 --> 02:09:38,369 misunderstood that they were 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as good as it gets believe me we're 3238 02:14:58,140 --> 02:14:56,320 exploring the past the future in 3239 02:14:58,590 --> 02:14:58,150 different who knows what's going on 3240 02:15:00,689 --> 02:14:58,600 there 3241 02:15:03,180 --> 02:15:00,699 what about HG Wells in his flying 3242 02:15:05,130 --> 02:15:03,190 machine from the 1890s was it when he 3243 02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:05,140 wrote that book actually it's not a heat 3244 02:15:10,380 --> 02:15:07,930 because if you follow warehouse 13 HG 3245 02:15:15,990 --> 02:15:10,390 Wells is a woman really yes 3246 02:15:17,580 --> 02:15:16,000 if we watch that show have a wacky show 3247 02:15:19,229 --> 02:15:17,590 where you have all these advanced 3248 02:15:22,260 --> 02:15:19,239 artifacts that are placed in this 3249 02:15:23,970 --> 02:15:22,270 special warehouse called warehouse 13 3250 02:15:28,380 --> 02:15:23,980 you kind of think it was descended from 3251 02:15:30,540 --> 02:15:28,390 the original Indiana Jones movie oh yeah 3252 02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:30,550 where the boxes are all stored in line 3253 02:15:35,130 --> 02:15:32,890 where at the end they take the Ark of 3254 02:15:37,770 --> 02:15:35,140 the Covenant they stick it in this 3255 02:15:39,140 --> 02:15:37,780 warehouse okay do you imagine what's in 3256 02:15:42,720 --> 02:15:39,150 that warehouse Wow 3257 02:15:44,670 --> 02:15:42,730 the Raiders of the Lost Ark yeah this 3258 02:15:46,950 --> 02:15:44,680 book is from the future is the book and 3259 02:15:49,650 --> 02:15:46,960 we're discussing all the permutations 3260 02:15:51,020 --> 02:15:49,660 about time travel and wormholes we 3261 02:15:53,580 --> 02:15:51,030 didn't talk about wormholes that much 3262 02:15:55,260 --> 02:15:53,590 now of course they use wormholes as a 3263 02:15:59,100 --> 02:15:55,270 device in science fiction like for 3264 02:16:02,520 --> 02:15:59,110 example in Farscape okay in for escape 3265 02:16:04,830 --> 02:16:02,530 we have this earth commander gets caught 3266 02:16:07,050 --> 02:16:04,840 in a wormhole and suddenly is thrust to 3267 02:16:09,720 --> 02:16:07,060 the other side of the universe it is an 3268 02:16:12,000 --> 02:16:09,730 instant passageway from here to there 3269 02:16:14,340 --> 02:16:12,010 from this place to that place 3270 02:16:18,380 --> 02:16:14,350 do we have wormholes in reality they're 3271 02:16:21,990 --> 02:16:18,390 theoretical tell us more about wormholes 3272 02:16:25,680 --> 02:16:22,000 basically to put it simply a wormhole is 3273 02:16:27,240 --> 02:16:25,690 a black hole with a white hole which is 3274 02:16:28,410 --> 02:16:27,250 just another black hole but it's at the 3275 02:16:31,170 --> 02:16:28,420 other end so you just got sort of an 3276 02:16:33,120 --> 02:16:31,180 entrance black hole and an exit white 3277 02:16:35,580 --> 02:16:33,130 hole and in between you've got a 3278 02:16:36,990 --> 02:16:35,590 shortcut through time and space kind of 3279 02:16:38,650 --> 02:16:37,000 a tube like if you want to give it a 3280 02:16:40,810 --> 02:16:38,660 visual image the idea is 3281 02:16:42,790 --> 02:16:40,820 if you have an apple you have a worm on 3282 02:16:44,260 --> 02:16:42,800 the outside of the Apple what would be 3283 02:16:46,060 --> 02:16:44,270 the quickest way for the worm to get 3284 02:16:48,010 --> 02:16:46,070 around to the other side would it be to 3285 02:16:50,110 --> 02:16:48,020 go all around the perimeter of the Apple 3286 02:16:51,610 --> 02:16:50,120 or cut straight through bore straight 3287 02:16:54,070 --> 02:16:51,620 through the Apple to the other side and 3288 02:16:58,510 --> 02:16:54,080 that's basically the concept behind worm 3289 02:17:00,070 --> 02:16:58,520 holes and one of the earliest maybe not 3290 02:17:02,830 --> 02:17:00,080 necessarily the earliest but the most 3291 02:17:05,500 --> 02:17:02,840 famous use of wormholes was in Alice in 3292 02:17:07,510 --> 02:17:05,510 Wonderland where the she goes down the 3293 02:17:09,490 --> 02:17:07,520 rabbit hole into this other reality and 3294 02:17:12,430 --> 02:17:09,500 that's the whole idea is that a worm 3295 02:17:15,790 --> 02:17:12,440 hole could lead to not just another 3296 02:17:18,190 --> 02:17:15,800 point in our universe but possibly be a 3297 02:17:22,240 --> 02:17:18,200 shortcut to another point in a parallel 3298 02:17:23,830 --> 02:17:22,250 universe but also possibly a shortcut to 3299 02:17:25,480 --> 02:17:23,840 another point in time so you could have 3300 02:17:27,490 --> 02:17:25,490 a wormhole that goes from the past to 3301 02:17:29,890 --> 02:17:27,500 the future you could have one that goes 3302 02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:29,900 from the present to the past and you 3303 02:17:33,880 --> 02:17:32,090 know any number of different ways we 3304 02:17:36,550 --> 02:17:33,890 look at that in all sorts of ways even 3305 02:17:38,770 --> 02:17:36,560 in the wacky TV show True Blood which is 3306 02:17:41,110 --> 02:17:38,780 about vampires and werewolves the 3307 02:17:43,930 --> 02:17:41,120 fairies live in an alternate reality you 3308 02:17:46,390 --> 02:17:43,940 have to find a way to go to where they 3309 02:17:48,669 --> 02:17:46,400 are and jump into this other place yeah 3310 02:17:50,740 --> 02:17:48,679 one of my favorite depictions of a 3311 02:17:54,040 --> 02:17:50,750 wormhole was in the movie contact with 3312 02:17:57,160 --> 02:17:54,050 Jodie Foster where she is sitting in 3313 02:17:59,260 --> 02:17:57,170 that little chair they've gotten contact 3314 02:18:00,669 --> 02:17:59,270 from an alien civilization they've 3315 02:18:02,260 --> 02:18:00,679 gotten the blueprints to make this 3316 02:18:04,480 --> 02:18:02,270 device or anybody who hasn't seen it but 3317 02:18:09,310 --> 02:18:04,490 I highly recommend it and she sits in a 3318 02:18:11,410 --> 02:18:09,320 chair above these whirring rings that 3319 02:18:13,810 --> 02:18:11,420 are literally manipulating the enfield 3320 02:18:16,690 --> 02:18:13,820 and creating below her a wormhole that 3321 02:18:18,459 --> 02:18:16,700 she then drops down into to the observer 3322 02:18:20,080 --> 02:18:18,469 it looks like nothing happened except 3323 02:18:22,840 --> 02:18:20,090 the pod dropped and landed in the water 3324 02:18:25,600 --> 02:18:22,850 below but what really happened is she 3325 02:18:29,560 --> 02:18:25,610 enters a wormhole and goes all the way 3326 02:18:31,500 --> 02:18:29,570 to Vega the star system I think it was 3327 02:18:33,669 --> 02:18:31,510 Vega I'm trying to remember and has 3328 02:18:36,640 --> 02:18:33,679 experiences there it's so it's really 3329 02:18:39,450 --> 02:18:36,650 just a shortcut but it's course there 3330 02:18:42,090 --> 02:18:39,460 she meets this alien creature who 3331 02:18:45,040 --> 02:18:42,100 masquerades itself as her late father 3332 02:18:47,050 --> 02:18:45,050 because she wouldn't understand its true 3333 02:18:49,450 --> 02:18:47,060 appearance and I love that too I love 3334 02:18:51,820 --> 02:18:49,460 the way it's explained that we are 3335 02:18:54,500 --> 02:18:51,830 coming to you in a way that you can 3336 02:18:56,810 --> 02:18:54,510 identify us and relate to us well that 3337 02:18:59,509 --> 02:18:56,820 creates the whole fabric of the UFO 3338 02:19:01,549 --> 02:18:59,519 mystery which is what we see the fact 3339 02:19:03,830 --> 02:19:01,559 that UFOs always seem to take on the 3340 02:19:06,379 --> 02:19:03,840 appearance that is appropriate to the 3341 02:19:09,980 --> 02:19:06,389 generation which they appear yes today 3342 02:19:12,290 --> 02:19:09,990 we look at spaceships and gray aliens in 3343 02:19:14,719 --> 02:19:12,300 all that part of our mythology that's 3344 02:19:17,780 --> 02:19:14,729 how they appear we have no idea if 3345 02:19:20,750 --> 02:19:17,790 that's real exactly it's the way that we 3346 02:19:22,910 --> 02:19:20,760 symbolize the the craft they've become 3347 02:19:25,310 --> 02:19:22,920 more evolved as we have they're much 3348 02:19:27,350 --> 02:19:25,320 more streamlined now than depictions of 3349 02:19:30,230 --> 02:19:27,360 the past the entities have gone from 3350 02:19:33,410 --> 02:19:30,240 being really freaky looking to be these 3351 02:19:35,150 --> 02:19:33,420 very streamlined hairless greys very 3352 02:19:37,850 --> 02:19:35,160 simple looking creatures and you're 3353 02:19:39,560 --> 02:19:37,860 absolutely right and that was a great 3354 02:19:43,490 --> 02:19:39,570 movie because it did take a look at the 3355 02:19:46,190 --> 02:19:43,500 idea that we perceive things we may not 3356 02:19:47,509 --> 02:19:46,200 be perceiving reality itself though so 3357 02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:47,519 who knows what's on the other end of 3358 02:19:51,980 --> 02:19:48,930 those wormholes but there's a lot of 3359 02:19:54,830 --> 02:19:51,990 science behind them Einstein and fellow 3360 02:19:56,090 --> 02:19:54,840 physicists Nathan Rosen came up with 3361 02:19:59,750 --> 02:19:56,100 their theory which was called the 3362 02:20:02,420 --> 02:19:59,760 einstein-rosen bridge and just so much 3363 02:20:07,219 --> 02:20:02,430 research has gone into whether or not 3364 02:20:09,080 --> 02:20:07,229 wormholes exist hopefully maybe out it 3365 02:20:12,410 --> 02:20:09,090 at the Large Hadron Collider they'll 3366 02:20:13,520 --> 02:20:12,420 find evidence of a wormhole there are 3367 02:20:15,650 --> 02:20:13,530 people who believe that there are 3368 02:20:18,469 --> 02:20:15,660 earth-based wormholes like the Bermuda 3369 02:20:19,880 --> 02:20:18,479 Triangle or a devil's triangle where we 3370 02:20:21,740 --> 02:20:19,890 haven't heard so much about the devil's 3371 02:20:24,500 --> 02:20:21,750 triangle in recent years what's the 3372 02:20:26,360 --> 02:20:24,510 story there I don't know a lot as well 3373 02:20:28,969 --> 02:20:26,370 but apparently off the coast of Japan 3374 02:20:31,490 --> 02:20:28,979 there's another triangle where there 3375 02:20:33,650 --> 02:20:31,500 have been innumerable disappearances and 3376 02:20:35,870 --> 02:20:33,660 bizarre anomalies very much like those 3377 02:20:38,510 --> 02:20:35,880 you hear about with the Bermuda Triangle 3378 02:20:40,520 --> 02:20:38,520 the idea being again that maybe there 3379 02:20:42,860 --> 02:20:40,530 are earth-based wormholes or are these 3380 02:20:45,710 --> 02:20:42,870 portals or vortexes where things get 3381 02:20:47,750 --> 02:20:45,720 sucked in and they're being deposited in 3382 02:20:49,639 --> 02:20:47,760 another dimension reality another 3383 02:20:53,110 --> 02:20:49,649 universe and that's why we never find 3384 02:20:55,460 --> 02:20:53,120 the wreckage so for what that's worth 3385 02:20:57,260 --> 02:20:55,470 wormholes could be everywhere you know 3386 02:21:00,260 --> 02:20:57,270 but how do we prove it how do we really 3387 02:21:03,139 --> 02:21:00,270 prove the existence of this place or 3388 02:21:04,910 --> 02:21:03,149 thing or whatever it is that's gonna 3389 02:21:07,580 --> 02:21:04,920 happen as the particulate 3390 02:21:09,860 --> 02:21:07,590 edie places like third the Hadron 3391 02:21:13,310 --> 02:21:09,870 Collider where they can literally smash 3392 02:21:15,590 --> 02:21:13,320 these particles together and create some 3393 02:21:17,870 --> 02:21:15,600 of these things like the Big Bang and a 3394 02:21:21,679 --> 02:21:17,880 parallel universe at string theory that 3395 02:21:23,270 --> 02:21:21,689 it's just so strange that proving cosmic 3396 02:21:25,370 --> 02:21:23,280 things like black holes and wormholes 3397 02:21:28,760 --> 02:21:25,380 and the fundamental structure of reality 3398 02:21:30,950 --> 02:21:28,770 itself always seem to happen first on 3399 02:21:33,560 --> 02:21:30,960 the quantum level so they'll find it 3400 02:21:35,780 --> 02:21:33,570 proof of a quantum wormhole first and 3401 02:21:37,790 --> 02:21:35,790 then hopefully they will expand that but 3402 02:21:40,160 --> 02:21:37,800 not screw us up in the meantime yeah 3403 02:21:42,230 --> 02:21:40,170 exactly and the thing is even if they 3404 02:21:44,120 --> 02:21:42,240 exist the idea that we could ever travel 3405 02:21:45,170 --> 02:21:44,130 through one that becomes a whole 3406 02:21:46,880 --> 02:21:45,180 different ballgame 3407 02:21:49,850 --> 02:21:46,890 well you point out in your book and I 3408 02:21:51,860 --> 02:21:49,860 think in several places that there are 3409 02:21:54,440 --> 02:21:51,870 some real what are seemingly 3410 02:21:56,090 --> 02:21:54,450 insurmountable barriers obviously a 3411 02:21:58,400 --> 02:21:56,100 black hole I mean like can't even escape 3412 02:22:01,010 --> 02:21:58,410 a black hole so the the actual amount of 3413 02:22:03,910 --> 02:22:01,020 radiation and forces involved would just 3414 02:22:06,380 --> 02:22:03,920 would squash you it would tear you apart 3415 02:22:10,940 --> 02:22:06,390 millions of miles away from from the 3416 02:22:12,050 --> 02:22:10,950 actual actual black hole itself but one 3417 02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:12,060 of the things that I found very 3418 02:22:16,610 --> 02:22:14,250 fascinating about the book is how you 3419 02:22:18,710 --> 02:22:16,620 were able to in and you guys really too 3420 02:22:21,880 --> 02:22:18,720 should be commended the way you were 3421 02:22:24,050 --> 02:22:21,890 able to to take these very complex a 3422 02:22:27,350 --> 02:22:24,060 subject you know physics and cosmology 3423 02:22:30,290 --> 02:22:27,360 and put it into a very entertaining and 3424 02:22:33,469 --> 02:22:30,300 readable format and and I did learn a 3425 02:22:34,969 --> 02:22:33,479 lot and I liked the way also that that 3426 02:22:38,870 --> 02:22:34,979 you kind of did a very systematic 3427 02:22:41,300 --> 02:22:38,880 progression of you know science 3428 02:22:44,660 --> 02:22:41,310 discovery new new and different things 3429 02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:44,670 and and and how differing views kind of 3430 02:22:50,030 --> 02:22:47,280 dovetailed at points especially 3431 02:22:53,270 --> 02:22:50,040 especially Einstein again in the quantum 3432 02:22:55,219 --> 02:22:53,280 physics you know and of course he said 3433 02:22:57,500 --> 02:22:55,229 God doesn't play dice and there's some 3434 02:23:00,500 --> 02:22:57,510 famous quotes attributed to Einstein and 3435 02:23:01,820 --> 02:23:00,510 he he had his he had his differences 3436 02:23:03,140 --> 02:23:01,830 with Niels Bohr and some of the early 3437 02:23:05,960 --> 02:23:03,150 heisenberg and some of the early 3438 02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:05,970 physicists but you again you are to be 3439 02:23:09,950 --> 02:23:06,810 commended 3440 02:23:13,390 --> 02:23:09,960 normally science books are not i usually 3441 02:23:17,390 --> 02:23:15,950 almost reading your book in a single 3442 02:23:18,801 --> 02:23:17,400 sitting which I don't normally do 3443 02:23:21,830 --> 02:23:18,811 specially with a book 3444 02:23:24,051 --> 02:23:21,840 so you know that's it's a little weighty 3445 02:23:26,091 --> 02:23:24,061 and and have you ended on the science 3446 02:23:27,950 --> 02:23:26,101 side and and and again that is really a 3447 02:23:29,180 --> 02:23:27,960 testament to you guys is writing thank 3448 02:23:31,610 --> 02:23:29,190 you and that's one of the things that 3449 02:23:33,440 --> 02:23:31,620 we've become known for is is taking 3450 02:23:37,070 --> 02:23:33,450 world complex stuff and breaking it down 3451 02:23:38,480 --> 02:23:37,080 for general audiences but one of the 3452 02:23:39,980 --> 02:23:38,490 reasons why we did that with this book 3453 02:23:41,780 --> 02:23:39,990 is we really wanted to show the past 3454 02:23:44,511 --> 02:23:41,790 president future the progression the 3455 02:23:46,131 --> 02:23:44,521 arrow of time of time travel and that's 3456 02:23:48,261 --> 02:23:46,141 why there is that sort of progression 3457 02:23:50,690 --> 02:23:48,271 from the early research in the early 3458 02:23:52,730 --> 02:23:50,700 concepts to the most current but I gotta 3459 02:23:54,801 --> 02:23:52,740 tell you it also saved our butts in 3460 02:23:58,700 --> 02:23:54,811 terms of putting this together because 3461 02:24:00,830 --> 02:23:58,710 the research was mind-boggling and that 3462 02:24:02,660 --> 02:24:00,840 gave us a structure that we could work 3463 02:24:03,980 --> 02:24:02,670 with where we wouldn't go nuts like what 3464 02:24:05,870 --> 02:24:03,990 what are we gonna put in what are we 3465 02:24:07,490 --> 02:24:05,880 gonna leave out so just the idea of okay 3466 02:24:09,080 --> 02:24:07,500 we're gonna focus on the past and we're 3467 02:24:10,400 --> 02:24:09,090 gonna come up to the present and then 3468 02:24:12,410 --> 02:24:10,410 we're gonna look a little bit ahead into 3469 02:24:14,780 --> 02:24:12,420 the future gave us it was a much easier 3470 02:24:16,551 --> 02:24:14,790 way of getting this book done we have to 3471 02:24:18,350 --> 02:24:16,561 get this done this book is from the 3472 02:24:20,511 --> 02:24:18,360 future from Murray Jones and Larry 3473 02:24:26,650 --> 02:24:20,521 Flaxman Murray's joining us with gene 3474 02:24:31,180 --> 02:24:28,450 [Music] 3475 02:24:34,300 --> 02:24:31,190 are you tired of searching for great 3476 02:24:39,160 --> 02:24:34,310 talk radio more important search through 3477 02:24:41,620 --> 02:24:39,170 no world we are the GCM radio network if 3478 02:24:44,320 --> 02:24:41,630 you want to get your website online and 3479 02:24:46,240 --> 02:24:44,330 you need reliable service first-class 3480 02:24:48,490 --> 02:24:46,250 service at the lowest possible price 3481 02:24:50,680 --> 02:24:48,500 there's only one place to go well dream 3482 02:24:52,990 --> 02:24:50,690 house has a special promotion with our 3483 02:24:56,620 --> 02:24:53,000 show where they'll offer you unlimited 3484 02:25:00,100 --> 02:24:56,630 disk space unlimited bandwidth one-click 3485 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installation in about 15 3568 02:28:11,200 --> 02:28:09,350 minutes and the best part no engine 3569 02:28:13,450 --> 02:28:11,210 modifications no computer chipping no 3570 02:28:15,340 --> 02:28:13,460 running wires no chemicals no water no 3571 02:28:17,410 --> 02:28:15,350 running costs and no maintenance and 3572 02:28:19,540 --> 02:28:17,420 these fuel savers come complete with all 3573 02:28:22,360 --> 02:28:19,550 parts and accessories see how it works 3574 02:28:26,680 --> 02:28:22,370 at ear fusion systems calm spelled a ir 3575 02:28:29,050 --> 02:28:26,690 fu s io n systems calm or call eight 3576 02:28:31,420 --> 02:28:29,060 eight eight eight eight seven nine nine 3577 02:28:34,060 --> 02:28:31,430 eight one eight eight eight eight eight 3578 02:28:36,760 --> 02:28:34,070 seven nine nine eight one fuel savers 3579 02:28:42,060 --> 02:28:36,770 from air fusion systems comm save fuel 3580 02:28:46,750 --> 02:28:44,469 this is Leslie Kane and I'm with the 3581 02:28:50,530 --> 02:28:46,760 Coalition for freedom of information and 3582 02:28:52,420 --> 02:28:50,540 you are listening to the podcast Marie 3583 02:28:54,760 --> 02:28:52,430 Jones joining gene and Chris and the 3584 02:28:58,060 --> 02:28:54,770 power cast taking an enjoyable journey 3585 02:29:00,580 --> 02:28:58,070 through time and space and alternate 3586 02:29:04,240 --> 02:29:00,590 realities and wormholes of course in the 3587 02:29:06,730 --> 02:29:04,250 TV show far escape this guy who is the 3588 02:29:09,700 --> 02:29:06,740 protagonist just takes a conventional 3589 02:29:11,830 --> 02:29:09,710 spacecraft and is sucked up in the 3590 02:29:13,750 --> 02:29:11,840 wormhole he doesn't need any technology 3591 02:29:20,099 --> 02:29:13,760 it's just a matter of knowing where it 3592 02:29:23,080 --> 02:29:20,109 is and all bets are off boy that easy 3593 02:29:24,880 --> 02:29:23,090 about science fiction is you know they 3594 02:29:26,380 --> 02:29:24,890 can look at the rules and the laws and 3595 02:29:27,969 --> 02:29:26,390 then say ah the heck with it we're gonna 3596 02:29:30,520 --> 02:29:27,979 do it this way or here's how we're gonna 3597 02:29:33,370 --> 02:29:30,530 get around it there's some old short 3598 02:29:36,340 --> 02:29:33,380 stories where they use hypnosis to send 3599 02:29:38,080 --> 02:29:36,350 the protagonist forward or backwards in 3600 02:29:41,380 --> 02:29:38,090 time and so it's sort of like anything 3601 02:29:43,719 --> 02:29:41,390 goes well we have of course this movie 3602 02:29:46,030 --> 02:29:43,729 that was I came out after the original 3603 02:29:49,120 --> 02:29:46,040 Superman with Christopher Reeve called 3604 02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:49,130 somewhere in time and he kind of falls 3605 02:29:54,610 --> 02:29:51,050 in love with this image of this woman 3606 02:29:56,800 --> 02:29:54,620 from the 1890s right Jane Seymour right 3607 02:29:58,719 --> 02:29:56,810 Jane Seymour right coming on the heels 3608 02:30:02,050 --> 02:29:58,729 of course living that dying where she 3609 02:30:05,770 --> 02:30:02,060 became very famous as a Bond girl okay 3610 02:30:07,810 --> 02:30:05,780 Mr Bond anyway so he evidently 3611 02:30:11,770 --> 02:30:07,820 hypnotizes himself to go back into the 3612 02:30:14,200 --> 02:30:11,780 past to see this woman of his dreams and 3613 02:30:17,230 --> 02:30:14,210 he's doing just perfectly fine until he 3614 02:30:19,750 --> 02:30:17,240 sees his wristwatch which destroys the 3615 02:30:23,770 --> 02:30:19,760 image of being in the past and he's 3616 02:30:25,929 --> 02:30:23,780 brought back to the future yeah very sad 3617 02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:25,939 yep of course you know in the movie 3618 02:30:30,670 --> 02:30:28,010 Superman the first Superman Superman 3619 02:30:33,190 --> 02:30:30,680 flies faster than light around the earth 3620 02:30:35,830 --> 02:30:33,200 to go back to the past to save Lois Lane 3621 02:30:38,440 --> 02:30:35,840 remember that towards the end movie see 3622 02:30:41,920 --> 02:30:38,450 and again you know I forgot that little 3623 02:30:45,099 --> 02:30:41,930 detail you're not confined by facts you 3624 02:30:46,840 --> 02:30:45,109 can but I still believe that science 3625 02:30:49,990 --> 02:30:46,850 fiction always sort of leads the way to 3626 02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:50,000 the science fact of the future it's just 3627 02:30:53,590 --> 02:30:52,010 having to think outside of the box I 3628 02:30:54,040 --> 02:30:53,600 mean having to say okay here are the 3629 02:30:56,080 --> 02:30:54,050 laws 3630 02:30:58,690 --> 02:30:56,090 rules that we know of today well how do 3631 02:31:00,309 --> 02:30:58,700 we push these how do we how do we it's 3632 02:31:02,020 --> 02:31:00,319 like that wall you either go bust 3633 02:31:04,559 --> 02:31:02,030 through it or you go over it or around 3634 02:31:08,320 --> 02:31:04,569 it until you get to the other side and 3635 02:31:10,599 --> 02:31:08,330 it's amazing some of the ideas that 20 3636 02:31:14,559 --> 02:31:10,609 30 years ago people laughed at that are 3637 02:31:16,330 --> 02:31:14,569 now part of our everyday reality well I 3638 02:31:17,889 --> 02:31:16,340 think the iPhone does more than the Star 3639 02:31:20,530 --> 02:31:17,899 Trek communicator all that thing could 3640 02:31:22,300 --> 02:31:20,540 do is talk back and forth right and 3641 02:31:24,880 --> 02:31:22,310 maybe you display ones location maybe 3642 02:31:26,500 --> 02:31:24,890 you had an RFT chip wasn't very advanced 3643 02:31:28,929 --> 02:31:26,510 the tricorder as a matter of fact I 3644 02:31:32,620 --> 02:31:28,939 guess would be roughly the equivalent of 3645 02:31:35,710 --> 02:31:32,630 the iPad a handheld computer mm-hmm and 3646 02:31:42,280 --> 02:31:35,720 what are the things the things what are 3647 02:31:45,070 --> 02:31:42,290 they called phasers phasers similar well 3648 02:31:47,770 --> 02:31:45,080 not really because you can stun somebody 3649 02:31:49,450 --> 02:31:47,780 if you switch it to stun but if you turn 3650 02:31:51,910 --> 02:31:49,460 it up powerful enough you can vaporize 3651 02:31:54,010 --> 02:31:51,920 somebody wouldn't it be amazing if ten 3652 02:31:55,900 --> 02:31:54,020 years from now our tasers are able to 3653 02:31:57,670 --> 02:31:55,910 vaporize people well I don't know if 3654 02:31:58,929 --> 02:31:57,680 that's such a good thing but well you 3655 02:32:00,280 --> 02:31:58,939 know there are lawsuits now i think 3656 02:32:02,559 --> 02:32:00,290 against some of the companies that make 3657 02:32:04,150 --> 02:32:02,569 tasers saying that people were shot by 3658 02:32:10,030 --> 02:32:04,160 the police you thought it would stun 3659 02:32:13,630 --> 02:32:10,040 them and they died yeah a hard condition 3660 02:32:15,280 --> 02:32:13,640 especially yeah absolutely yeah boy I'd 3661 02:32:18,219 --> 02:32:15,290 sure hate to get hit with a taser if I 3662 02:32:20,080 --> 02:32:18,229 had a pacemaker or some sort of you know 3663 02:32:32,920 --> 02:32:20,090 tell Dick Cheney to be real careful 3664 02:32:34,630 --> 02:32:32,930 around uh yeah well he waited almost 70 3665 02:32:38,370 --> 02:32:34,640 years to get a heart so he finally got 3666 02:32:41,170 --> 02:32:38,380 one not sure if that's gonna help but 3667 02:32:42,580 --> 02:32:41,180 anyway Murray what other projects are 3668 02:32:44,349 --> 02:32:42,590 you working on what other research he's 3669 02:32:46,860 --> 02:32:44,359 doing what's in the in the pipeline for 3670 02:32:50,950 --> 02:32:46,870 you believe it or not right now 3671 02:32:52,210 --> 02:32:50,960 nothing yeah we just pitched some ideas 3672 02:32:54,219 --> 02:32:52,220 to our publisher so we're not sure 3673 02:32:56,830 --> 02:32:54,229 what's gonna be next but right now we're 3674 02:33:00,340 --> 02:32:56,840 just pretty much going crazy promoting 3675 02:33:02,410 --> 02:33:00,350 this book and doing the vents and we 3676 02:33:04,710 --> 02:33:02,420 have our own radio show doing all kinds 3677 02:33:07,090 --> 02:33:04,720 of stuff so always keeping busy 3678 02:33:07,990 --> 02:33:07,100 hopefully in the next months we'll know 3679 02:33:10,630 --> 02:33:08,000 what our next 3680 02:33:14,019 --> 02:33:10,640 will be now a book like this this is a 3681 02:33:16,030 --> 02:33:14,029 book of about 220 pages or so how long 3682 02:33:19,570 --> 02:33:16,040 they take you and Larry to write this 3683 02:33:23,469 --> 02:33:19,580 thing from the scratch I believe this 3684 02:33:26,260 --> 02:33:23,479 one we had five months and it varies 3685 02:33:28,599 --> 02:33:26,270 they're very sad it's determined on when 3686 02:33:30,370 --> 02:33:28,609 you get the deal you know when you 3687 02:33:32,950 --> 02:33:30,380 suggest it when everything is finalized 3688 02:33:34,570 --> 02:33:32,960 and what window of availability the 3689 02:33:37,300 --> 02:33:34,580 publisher has for and I believe with 3690 02:33:38,979 --> 02:33:37,310 this one it was very fast track I think 3691 02:33:41,110 --> 02:33:38,989 it was five months usually we'll get 3692 02:33:42,670 --> 02:33:41,120 maybe six or seven months I'll tell you 3693 02:33:44,380 --> 02:33:42,680 what I used to write computer books I 3694 02:33:49,479 --> 02:33:44,390 write three or four hundred or five 3695 02:33:53,229 --> 02:33:49,489 hundred page books in six weeks yeah I 3696 02:33:54,580 --> 02:33:53,239 don't know I think we would drop dead I 3697 02:33:57,250 --> 02:33:54,590 don't think you could have done it with 3698 02:33:59,170 --> 02:33:57,260 this this time-travel book no way there 3699 02:34:02,500 --> 02:33:59,180 was just too much research obviously the 3700 02:34:04,929 --> 02:34:02,510 guys had to do and you have two authors 3701 02:34:07,059 --> 02:34:04,939 is not just one person you think I would 3702 02:34:08,830 --> 02:34:07,069 make it easier and it does in some ways 3703 02:34:11,290 --> 02:34:08,840 but it's also making sure everything 3704 02:34:13,360 --> 02:34:11,300 meshes together and you know putting a 3705 02:34:15,820 --> 02:34:13,370 with B and it was it was hard but I 3706 02:34:18,219 --> 02:34:15,830 think it's a really cool book just an 3707 02:34:20,860 --> 02:34:18,229 aside Q part of the book here is called 3708 02:34:22,840 --> 02:34:20,870 time for a song where you mention all 3709 02:34:25,660 --> 02:34:22,850 the songs here just some of the songs 3710 02:34:27,610 --> 02:34:25,670 have the word time in the title yeah too 3711 02:34:29,320 --> 02:34:27,620 many here yeah we're rounding I'll 3712 02:34:31,660 --> 02:34:29,330 mention a few time in a bottle from the 3713 02:34:33,610 --> 02:34:31,670 late Jim Croce whom I met a couple of 3714 02:34:35,620 --> 02:34:33,620 times like weeks before he died in the 3715 02:34:38,469 --> 02:34:35,630 1970s in a plane crash 3716 02:34:40,450 --> 02:34:38,479 time after time Cindy Lauper does 3717 02:34:43,090 --> 02:34:40,460 anybody really know what time it is 3718 02:34:45,250 --> 02:34:43,100 Chicago time is on my side the Rolling 3719 02:34:48,340 --> 02:34:45,260 Stones time won't let me buy the 3720 02:34:51,670 --> 02:34:48,350 outsiders time passengers house to it as 3721 02:34:54,550 --> 02:34:51,680 time goes by Jimmy to Randy too much 3722 02:34:56,200 --> 02:34:54,560 time on my hands from sticks and they 3723 02:34:58,630 --> 02:34:56,210 regroup now sticks by the way they're 3724 02:35:00,610 --> 02:34:58,640 outperforming distich so the new sticks 3725 02:35:02,860 --> 02:35:00,620 well I think they have the same lead 3726 02:35:06,550 --> 02:35:02,870 singer so as the new sticks of the old 3727 02:35:08,650 --> 02:35:06,560 sticks at last from Etta James more 3728 02:35:11,979 --> 02:35:08,660 today than yesterday spiral staircase 3729 02:35:15,860 --> 02:35:11,989 time from Pink Floyd how about the time 3730 02:35:17,900 --> 02:35:15,870 work from Rocky Horror come on 3731 02:35:20,240 --> 02:35:17,910 right right right and you look at all 3732 02:35:26,420 --> 02:35:20,250 these things here time is tight Booker T 3733 02:35:28,790 --> 02:35:26,430 and the MGS the time Billy Joel way we 3734 02:35:31,011 --> 02:35:28,800 were about time obviously Barbra 3735 02:35:32,301 --> 02:35:31,021 Streisand and the way we were of course 3736 02:35:34,100 --> 02:35:32,311 that was a song that was written by 3737 02:35:37,430 --> 02:35:34,110 Marvin Hamlisch who died recently yes 3738 02:35:40,970 --> 02:35:37,440 about time passages I said that already 3739 02:35:44,330 --> 02:35:40,980 Alice Stewart yeah it's too late Carole 3740 02:35:46,400 --> 02:35:44,340 King it's too late baby yes it's too 3741 02:35:49,370 --> 02:35:46,410 late remember that day by day from 3742 02:35:51,740 --> 02:35:49,380 Godspell Oh year 2525 3743 02:35:53,841 --> 02:35:51,750 oh very I don't I don't see that here 3744 02:35:56,511 --> 02:35:53,851 week I was trying to come up with one 3745 02:35:59,120 --> 02:35:56,521 that I did say here in Evans they had 3746 02:36:01,761 --> 02:35:59,130 two hits by the way that was one of them 3747 02:36:08,740 --> 02:36:01,771 and then another one was Indiana wants 3748 02:36:12,170 --> 02:36:08,750 me but I can't go back in the year 2525 3749 02:36:14,091 --> 02:36:12,180 there's a ton of songs that you couldn't 3750 02:36:16,280 --> 02:36:14,101 find but these are some of the fun 3751 02:36:19,310 --> 02:36:16,290 choices we found it just shows you how 3752 02:36:22,430 --> 02:36:19,320 it's like love time is always on the 3753 02:36:25,970 --> 02:36:22,440 minds of singers and artists the big 3754 02:36:27,801 --> 02:36:25,980 questions about being human right of 3755 02:36:30,560 --> 02:36:27,811 course there is a TV show called being 3756 02:36:33,410 --> 02:36:30,570 human about a vampire a ghost and a 3757 02:36:35,900 --> 02:36:33,420 werewolf there's a British version and a 3758 02:36:37,430 --> 02:36:35,910 USA version they have to have two 3759 02:36:40,100 --> 02:36:37,440 different versions they can't just have 3760 02:36:41,690 --> 02:36:40,110 one no they can't i mean sometimes they 3761 02:36:44,150 --> 02:36:41,700 do but a lot of times they will take a 3762 02:36:46,730 --> 02:36:44,160 british TV show and remake it here oh 3763 02:36:48,910 --> 02:36:46,740 yeah and sometimes like the legendary 3764 02:36:51,350 --> 02:36:48,920 comedy all on the family it works 3765 02:36:53,780 --> 02:36:51,360 sometimes it doesn't being humans on the 3766 02:36:56,450 --> 02:36:53,790 sci-fi channel and that one appears to 3767 02:37:00,140 --> 02:36:56,460 work and the one who plays the werewolf 3768 02:37:02,091 --> 02:37:00,150 by the way is the same kid who played he 3769 02:37:04,670 --> 02:37:02,101 played one of the cavemen when they did 3770 02:37:06,591 --> 02:37:04,680 a TV series about the characters and the 3771 02:37:13,011 --> 02:37:06,601 Geico commercials and he also played 3772 02:37:17,150 --> 02:37:13,021 Jimmy Olsen in Superman Returns you 3773 02:37:20,030 --> 02:37:17,160 frighten me gene why is that I mean I 3774 02:37:21,920 --> 02:37:20,040 I've never lost the Trivial Pursuit and 3775 02:37:27,680 --> 02:37:21,930 I'm not sure if I'd do that well against 3776 02:37:29,419 --> 02:37:27,690 you yeah well some people say he's just 3777 02:37:30,859 --> 02:37:29,429 trivial 3778 02:37:33,319 --> 02:37:30,869 and he's got stopped doing those 3779 02:37:36,949 --> 02:37:33,329 pursuits I thought that's what they said 3780 02:37:39,019 --> 02:37:36,959 about your sidekick funny 3781 02:37:40,789 --> 02:37:39,029 Murray Jones tell our listeners where 3782 02:37:44,419 --> 02:37:40,799 they can find more about the things that 3783 02:37:46,369 --> 02:37:44,429 you do oh my website Marie Jones comm or 3784 02:37:49,639 --> 02:37:46,379 my website with Larry Flaxman which is 3785 02:37:51,349 --> 02:37:49,649 para explorers P AR a para explorers 3786 02:37:53,749 --> 02:37:51,359 comm and I'm on Facebook Twitter 3787 02:37:57,319 --> 02:37:53,759 Linkedin and you name it I'm out there 3788 02:38:00,499 --> 02:37:57,329 and in this timeframe not the past not 3789 02:38:02,119 --> 02:38:00,509 the future we don't know ray Jones and 3790 02:38:05,329 --> 02:38:02,129 Larry flax from the book again is called 3791 02:38:12,139 --> 02:38:05,339 this book is from the future 3792 02:38:14,119 --> 02:38:12,149 Chris timeframe are you well we live on 3793 02:38:18,499 --> 02:38:14,129 a strange planet it's our strange planet 3794 02:38:19,429 --> 02:38:18,509 calm my my web Meister is contacted me 3795 02:38:21,409 --> 02:38:19,439 and we're gonna be doing some 3796 02:38:23,119 --> 02:38:21,419 development of work this week to get the 3797 02:38:24,619 --> 02:38:23,129 thing fully up to speed that's gonna 3798 02:38:27,800 --> 02:38:24,629 include a web cam by the way you can 3799 02:38:30,679 --> 02:38:27,810 find us on Twitter we are the power cast 3800 02:38:32,119 --> 02:38:30,689 there's a para 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